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Lloydy 05-Apr-2004 19:13

Wheelies
 
I know that they are not clever and are illegal, but I want to do them!!! :D

For the life of me I cant. Even after changing the gearing..:o

What is the best way to do em folks?

Got a 996 Bip, dropped one on front and put one on back sprocket..

Guido 05-Apr-2004 19:17

Mork calling Chillo, Mork calling Chillo, come in Chillo.

Chillo is your man Lloydy.....I'm sure he'll be along soon to advise, no doubt on the back wheel as he types;)

I'm in the same boat as you mate so will leave it to an expert

Lloydy 05-Apr-2004 19:21

Well I am glad to hear that I am not alone.

Have had the occaisional little one off r/bouts in second.

Had a big 'pop up' yesterday, thought I was in 2nd, but was in first of a r/bout.. Shat meeself!! :o:o:o

I think that that is half the problem, I am scared...

Rattler 05-Apr-2004 20:46

Chillo\'s deffo your man, but failing that.....
 
........wheelie school?

Tim:frog:

antonye 05-Apr-2004 21:56

Piece of **** mate...

The best way to learn to wheelie is to start small and get used to the feeling of the bike coming up. No big heroics and you won't come off the back.

Remember that there are two ways to put the wheel down - by letting off the throttle or by hitting the back brake. Or by running out of revs. Ok, so that's three ways. But nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

To get the front wheel in the air is also really easy when you know how. Listen very carefully, I shall say zis only once...

Ride along in first, about 20-30mph, around 6,000rpm or thereabouts.

Now in one swift movement you need to "cough" the throttle fully open.

Give it a try ..... *cough*+twist

You should now feel the wheel start to come off the floor under power.

Don't worry, it was nowhere near as high as you thought it was and you had the back brake covered, didn't you. Didn't you?

Keep practising the cough technique and you'll soon get it higher and higher until you find the balance point. The hardest part is to get your head around bringing the wheel up in the first place.

Once you've mastered getting up, getting the distance is the next trick. You need to flutter the throttle to keep the engine on the edge of keeping the wheel in the air without accelerating too much.... but you'll get the hang of it!

Just ask Desmondo, he'll tell you what a great wheelie merchant I am :D

Mike Davis 05-Apr-2004 22:16

OK OK, ther are two types of wheelie the one Antonye describes and a real wheelie where you ride along on the back whell changing gear as you go till you decide to put the front wheel down, usualy because theres a roundabout or a sharpish corner.

Three big tips firstly you need to able to change gear swiftly and smoothly with no clutch, if you dont change up the box using this method start now and do it for every day riding till it becomes second nature.
Secondly the balance point is bigger than you think as in a margin of some 15 degreess or so, on a Ducati you should need to stretch your neck slightly to see over the top of the screen, thats how high you need to get.
This is the biggie and will make all the difference, sit towards the back of the seat and fairly upright with your hand on the throttle in its normal position roll it forward slightly, about an eight of a turn.
The reason for this is when you grab a handfull of throttle say half to two thirds it leaves your arms balanced and straight giving you better control of the throttle and better balance.

It took me five or six months to get it right so be patient. when you do your first proper wheelie lifting in first shifting to second then third and riding on a constant throttle as if on two wheels and putting it down when you want the buzz is awesome.

marksduc748 05-Apr-2004 22:33

not the best bike to be doing them on, there is a wheelie day you can go on but its on a 1200 bandit. worth going on if you like that sort of thing.

Nigel C 05-Apr-2004 22:51

Then when you've finished practising your wheelies you can clean off all the oil thats been coming out of your crankcase breather :o:o:o:o;);););)

gasmanrus 05-Apr-2004 22:56

wheelies are big And clever!!
 
all the above is v. usefull.

another way, when you've got a nice grunty twin, is to be rolling along in 2nd, lightly dip the clutch and suimultainiously roll on the throttle. this will raise the front smoothly,
1st tends to be a bit jerky/twitchy,
using this method you can start small & build up height & distance
uphill wheelies are easier
practice on off road bikes (less painfull/expensive/heart breaking if it goes pear!!)
if you can find anyone brave enough, get em on the back, it helps bring the balance point down.
im using the same gearing as you llloydy,start small & build up slowly, but be carefull where you do em, they are well addictive!!
good luck:devil:

antonye 05-Apr-2004 23:06

The Ducati clutch isn't the best for wheelies as it tends to be quite grabby and sometimes quite hit and miss (literally!)

Just get out there and practise is all I say!

Lloydy 06-Apr-2004 09:26

Thanx for all of your replies.

Just have to build up the courage now I guess. Am still worried about popping it up in 1st, it just seems sooooo snatchy...

Desmondo 06-Apr-2004 10:00

Quote:

Originally posted by antonye
Just ask Desmondo, he'll tell you what a great wheelie merchant I am :D
I'm saying nothing.


















Apart from A12, corner, barrier :lol::lol::lol:

mike916 06-Apr-2004 13:24

While doing ur wheelie watch the oil pressure light as well as can cause low pressure if running for a long time with the front up. Also ur going to have to clean the oil out the airbox, cough, splutter:mad:

Jon 06-Apr-2004 21:39

And if on public roads the old bill, ready to take YER BIKE OFF YA !!!!!!!!!!

marksduc748 06-Apr-2004 22:22

oh yeah! in the motor cycle news. if caught doing wheelies say bye bye to the bike.:roll:

antonye 06-Apr-2004 23:24

Quote:

Originally posted by marksduc748
oh yeah! in the motor cycle news. if caught doing wheelies say bye bye to the bike.:roll:

But the law states the use of such enforcement only for persistent offenders.

Nice to see More Crap News being sensationalist again :(

marksduc748 07-Apr-2004 21:59

funny you say that because my mate got caught on the back wheel this week end and he made some excuse but the bobby in question wasnt having any of it and decided to do him for dangerous driving and faces a ban and resit his car and bike test and could be a month in prison "if" he is a regular offender.

antonye 07-Apr-2004 22:41

Would be interested to hear what comes of this. I would expect him to get a fine and 3 points to be honest.

marksduc748 07-Apr-2004 22:46

psssst! i did forget to say he chased him for about 4 miles till he got him to stop plus the helicopter was watching. :)


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