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John W 08-Apr-2004 21:22

scott oiler on an ST
 
Hi,

any of you guys have a scott oiler fitted ?
I've brought one for my ST4S and intended to fit it myself, like you do.

However, I was expecting slightly more detailed fitting instructions than the rather vague general ones included in the kit.

Does anyone have one fitted, or can give advice as to the best place to fit the reservour, tubes, etc.

Any help, or pics of a current install gratefully received.

Cheers,
John.

Rushjob 08-Apr-2004 21:30

I've got one on mine John.....works well enough & doesn't take up much room.
Dead easy to install & use.
I'll take a few photos & post them tomorrow.
Andy

greyiron 08-Apr-2004 22:05

Andy
Could i butt in and ask for a copy 2
nick

John W 08-Apr-2004 22:07

Thanks Andy,
I'll look forward to them.

I'm sure it is pretty easy to fit as there isn't a great deal to the kit.
Its always handy to know how others are fitted though.

I assume the reservoir is tiewrapped to one of the rear frame loop top tubes.
I'd be interested to hear/see where the tubing is run in order to get it down to the nossle, and if possible where the vacuum feed is tapped into.

No work tomorrow - wohhhhhoooooo :roll:

greyiron 08-Apr-2004 22:08

insurance st4s 2002 model
 
Insurance is nearly due
Anybody got some good leads for the best price.
nick. ;)

saj288 08-Apr-2004 22:40

try www.ducati-insurance.co.uk

SAJ

Rushjob 09-Apr-2004 15:11

View of reservior

Rushjob 09-Apr-2004 15:12

Another viewof reservoir

Rushjob 09-Apr-2004 15:12

Run of feed tube along inside of frame down to swingarm

Rushjob 09-Apr-2004 15:14

Tube running across bottom face of swingarm - channel fixed in place with superglue.

Rushjob 09-Apr-2004 15:14

Twin feed to rear sprocket

Rushjob 09-Apr-2004 15:17

Hope these help you - can't get a good pic of the vacuum feed but it simply goes into the rear cylinder vacuum port ( the one used for throttle balancing ) - the kit has a neat little brass adaptor which fits perfectly.
If you need any more, let me know.
Cheers
Andy
;)

Return of the BDG 10-Apr-2004 00:42

Rushjob has done a great job of demonstrating, same as mine and works perfectly

belthead 11-Apr-2004 17:28

Relieved to see that I fitted mine exactly in the same way......

John W 11-Apr-2004 19:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Rushjob
Hope these help you - can't get a good pic of the vacuum feed but it simply goes into the rear cylinder vacuum port ( the one used for throttle balancing ) - the kit has a neat little brass adaptor which fits perfectly.
If you need any more, let me know.
Cheers
Andy
;)

Andy,

many thanks for taking the time to take/post the pics.
I have fitted my reservoir on the righthand side lower frame rail (if that makes sense), which is behind the damper reservoir on my bike. Main reason for fitting this side was so I can keep the left side clear for one of the storage bags I've seen.

Good to see that I've fed the pipe down the inside of the rear framework the same as you have. This concerned me a bit due to the proximity of the rear cylinders exhaust. I guess its not too much of a problem though.

In a fit of madness I have decided to arrange the feed at the front sprocket. Time will tell if it is a success.

I'm not sure of the vacuum port your on about, I still have to connect this (job for tomorrow morning). I have a 996 manual so I'll have a read of that in a moment to figure out where you mean.

I took pics of my install too, so I'll post them up shortly. Btw, I found a link to a scottoiler install via the st4s website which is similar to your install (reservoir mounted differently).

Many thanks,
John.

Rushjob 11-Apr-2004 21:25

I considered the front sprocket feed for mine but decided against it when I saw how much crud it accrued under the gearbox sprocket cover, however, each to his own...
Which ever way you fit it, at least you have the benefit of constant lubrication for the chain & sprockets which has to be good - I was a little upset when I had to adjust my chain a few days ago......I'd only done it 2300 miles earlier....!
Cheers
Andy

Rushjob 11-Apr-2004 21:35

For the brass thingy...look at the rear cylinder from the gearshift side....follow the inlet mainfold forward and you'll see a slotted screw...remove this & put the brass thingy in in its place...like this........

Rushjob 11-Apr-2004 21:36

Then the vacuum feed clips on like this.......



Cheers
Andy;)

chrisw 11-Apr-2004 21:37

Vacuum Point
 
If you are using the Haynes manual for 748/916/996 the only picture of the vacuum take off is in the Fuel and Exhaust System section page 4.15 picture 10.10b. If you look at the picture the screw you require is in the centre about one third up from the bottom. It has a slotted head and is made of brass. It you try to remove it with the fairing on then be careful. If you drop it then a magnet will not pick it out. (Blue tack helps to retain it on the screwdriver blade). For installation I used a socket on an extension bar and was careful to avoid cross threading. Attaching the rubber take off connector was achieved with the aid of an extension bar to push it home.

[Edited on 11-4-2004 by chrisw]

John W 11-Apr-2004 22:07

Thanks Andy & Chris.

I did look in the manual and sussed out where I needed to connect the pipe. Funnily enough I had already removed that screw earlier, but put it back incase it was not the right place :saint:

As for crud collecting in the the front sprocket cover, I had thought about changing to a carbon one. Its only 2 screws to remove though, so just another task on the cleaning list.
I still might change the front oiling, depending on how successful it actually works as I have it now.

Just about to upload my install pics. ;)

Cheers again guys.
John.

John W 11-Apr-2004 22:33

pic1 - reservoir location

John W 11-Apr-2004 22:35

pic2 - pipe route across top of ABS pump

John W 11-Apr-2004 22:37

pic3 - routing of pipework down inside of frame

John W 11-Apr-2004 22:39

pic4 - nozzle location at front sprocket (not happy with this as it oils the outside of the chain...)

Monty 12-Apr-2004 23:58

Hey Andy, are you sure that was your bike you took the photo's of-my scottoiler installation is identical.:lol:

John

John W 14-Apr-2004 23:51

just an update on my nozzle location (steady !)

I repositioned it to oil the outer side of the front sprocket, which in turn throws the oil out onto the chain. After a couple of days testing it appears to be working a treat :D

moozaad 22-Apr-2006 21:21

I managed to fit the tourer version to my st2 today.

Only difference is:
o- Needed to drill a hole 5mm further out on the registration plate
o- Flow setting needs to be very high to get the 1-2 drops a min


I did the dual injector to the rear sprocket, but I may move it to the front, as it's less tubing and neater.

John W 24-Apr-2006 22:57

I have adopted the rear sprocket oiling now, with the viper dual injector.
This is because the front sprocket kept eating the drip tube :rolleye:

It works a treat on the rear, but the back wheel does get VERY dirty.

I'm still using the normal version, which, with a small bottle of oil as reserve to fill up if required, is good for a 3k mile touring trip. That is enough for me.
I'm not overly sold on the look of the touring kit, which by the way seem to have a habit of failing to work after a few years (I think the pipes swell, or go hard), if my riding palls experiences are anything to go by. Funnily enough, having to wind up the setting seems to be a common problem, especially if any of the pipes are pinched by tie wraps, or you take the feed pipe up above the height of the reservoir (almost impossible to avoid).

The new sausage reservoirs look like a smart idea though.
I know this doesn't help you now, but thought it might be worth mentioning for others contemplating changing.

Cheers,
John.

[Edited on 24-4-2006 by John W]

Derek 25-Apr-2006 15:15

Scottoiler are currently working on a Ducati specific system for oiling at the front sprocket with a fitting that attaches to the sprocket cover.

YMFB 26-Apr-2006 22:10

I have fitted a MK7 universal kit, but the chain still looks rusty can I now retrofit a dual nozzle

rockhopper 27-Apr-2006 08:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Derek
Scottoiler are currently working on a Ducati specific system for oiling at the front sprocket with a fitting that attaches to the sprocket cover.

Odd that one becasue in their manuals they don't recommend oiling at the front sprocket due to the speed of the chain throwing all the oil off!

Derek 27-Apr-2006 14:02

Quote:

Originally posted by rockhopper
Quote:

Originally posted by Derek
Scottoiler are currently working on a Ducati specific system for oiling at the front sprocket with a fitting that attaches to the sprocket cover.

Odd that one becasue in their manuals they don't recommend oiling at the front sprocket due to the speed of the chain throwing all the oil off!

Here's the evidence : Scott oiler - Ducati Specific Fitting

moozaad 29-Apr-2006 16:34

Quote:

Originally posted by YMFB
I have fitted a MK7 universal kit, but the chain still looks rusty can I now retrofit a dual nozzle

easily - you just pull the old one off and take the metal stiffener out of the tube. The dual head comes with a small black pipe like the suction one and that fits down the centre of the bigger clear pipes that come with the standard kit.
You get about 2-3 ft of black pipe, so lots of spare to play with. I push mine in about 2 inches without trimming any and it runs up to under the seat before the clear pipe starts.


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