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zhed44 13-Jan-2009 17:13

Does the 748R Steer Faster Than the Other 748/9** Bikes?
 
As the title says.

With all my previous 748/9** series bikes, I've had to change the steering head angle to "race" in order to get them to steer a bit quicker. However, even with the head angle set to "road/normal" the 748R feels a lot quicker steering than an unaltered 748BP or 996S (although probably not as "pointy" as they did when the head angle was set to "race").

Perhaps it's the lighter wheels or even the Ohlins forks? Or perhaps my bike has been set-up by its previous owner with a bit more ride-height?

Have any other 748R owners noticed this, or is it just my imagination?

Gaz 748 13-Jan-2009 17:19

Check the rear ride height, have raised mine a couple of turns, this helps a lot. Also change the front tyre from 60 to 70 profile. Would recommend at least +3 on the rear sprocket, this requires longer chain but is worth it, im on +4 now.

zhed44 13-Jan-2009 17:23

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Originally Posted by Gaz 748
Check the rear ride height, have raised mine a couple of turns, this helps a lot. Also change the front tyre from 60 to 70 profile. Would recommend at least +3 on the rear sprocket, this requires longer chain but is worth it, im on +4 now.


It's definitely a 70 profile tyre.

I can't check the ride-height at the moment because the bike is away having the alarm replaced under warranty.

Does the +3 rear sprocket also raise the ride-height (something to do with the eccentric hub perhaps?), or are you just greedy for acceleration? :

Gaz 748 13-Jan-2009 17:25

Yes it does adjust rear ride height, have see 170 on the clock with +3 !!!

doogalman 13-Jan-2009 18:30

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Originally Posted by Gaz 748
have see 170 on the clock with +3 !!!

You naughty boy. :cool:

Gaz 748 13-Jan-2009 18:35

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Originally Posted by doogalman
You naughty boy. :cool:


I was behind you !!! :eek: but closing in very quickly :D

phil_h 13-Jan-2009 20:26

If you jack the rear up they do turn much faster.
They will also turn faster if the front is soft and you are large ;)

zhed44 13-Jan-2009 20:54

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Originally Posted by phil_h
If you jack the rear up they do turn much faster.
They will also turn faster if the front is soft and you are large ;)


Yes, but I'm wondering if it's been set up to steer quicker (eg: by raising the rear), or whether "R"s are just a bit more nimble due to their lighter wheels and different suspenders.

If anything, I actually thought the front felt a bit stiff, but then again, I was riding on some exceptionally cracked and potholed roads today.

rcgbob44 13-Jan-2009 21:58

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Originally Posted by Gaz 748
Check the rear ride height, have raised mine a couple of turns, .


And you can still touch the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................supprising!

rcgbob44 13-Jan-2009 21:58

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Originally Posted by Gaz 748
Yes it does adjust rear ride height, have see 170 on the clock with +3 !!!



KPH ?

twpd 14-Jan-2009 12:33

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Originally Posted by rcgbob44
KPH ?


I've known of well sorted R's hitting that and it being verified. This is on std gearing mind.

PeteB 14-Jan-2009 13:29

No, its not your imagination, my 2002 R as standard felt much quicker in direction changes with easier turn in than a BiP but never felt quite as 'planted' with the 60 profile front tyre.

I put it down to the lighter wheels, discs and tyre profile, brilliant bike all round though:) :)

Lightning Boy 14-Jan-2009 14:27

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Originally Posted by Gaz 748
I was behind you !!! :eek: but closing in very quickly :D



Amnesia, Alzheimers, or senility...... ???

:D

Lightning Boy 14-Jan-2009 14:34

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Originally Posted by rcgbob44
And you can still touch the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.................supprising!


Mine's up a couple of turns...... and staying there because it's seized......


And no, I can't touch the ground........ :(

phil_h 14-Jan-2009 17:15

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Originally Posted by zhed44
Yes, but I'm wondering if it's been set up to steer quicker (eg: by raising the rear), or whether "R"s are just a bit more nimble due to their lighter wheels and different suspenders.

If anything, I actually thought the front felt a bit stiff, but then again, I was riding on some exceptionally cracked and potholed roads today.

I've been on TD's with an ex-racer mate who has a 748R, with me running my 600SS DD bike, and he has on more than one occasion noted how much faster my DD bike turns in than his R does.
Lighter wheels will not make as much difference as jacking the rear up an inch and dropping the front an inch.
I remember trying my 748 with the rear jacked to the max before it felt too much.


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