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Chaz 20-Jan-2009 22:13

583 Tilt switch
 
Anyone fitted a tilt switch to a 583? were do you wire it into the loom?

Got them fitted to the 620's use the side stand wires.

skidlids 20-Jan-2009 22:37

Not heard of one being fitted to a 583. As the fuel pressure is a lot lower the risks associcated with a fuel leak are lower .
But to protect the engine I would probaly wire it in so that it dropped out a relay to cut the feed to the fuel pump or the feed t the coils

Chaz 20-Jan-2009 22:43

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Originally Posted by skidlids
Not heard of one being fitted to a 583. As the fuel pressure is a lot lower the risks associcated with a fuel leak are lower .
But to protect the engine I would probaly wire it in so that it dropped out a relay to cut the feed to the fuel pump or the feed t the coils


I just like the motor to cut before it can starve of oil Kev! I guess there's less chance of that on a carb motor though unless the thottle stuck flat out:eek:

vespa 20-Jan-2009 23:00

Actually, I had a spill during the TD at Snett before the races and the engine was running horizontal for less than 20 seconds at idle revs. The engine started to loose power progressively during the races. Opened the engine and the big end bush of the front rod was loose and worn out to copper. Veery lucky I didn't blow the engine! :eek:
The only explanation is the 20 seconds horizontal. So Chaz, let me know if you find a suitable switch please.

Chaz 20-Jan-2009 23:22

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Originally Posted by vespa
Actually, I had a spill during the TD at Snett before the races and the engine was running horizontal for less than 20 seconds at idle revs. The engine started to loose power progressively during the races. Opened the engine and the big end bush of the front rod was loose and worn out to copper. Veery lucky I didn't blow the engine! :eek:
The only explanation is the 20 seconds horizontal. So Chaz, let me know if you find a suitable switch please.


Got the switch looking at the best way to wire it Alex.

skidlids 20-Jan-2009 23:33

Chaz does the switch make (Close) or break (open) when it is tilted over

Chaz 20-Jan-2009 23:44

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Originally Posted by skidlids
Chaz does the switch make (Close) or break (open) when it is tilted over



It breaks on tilt.

skidlids 21-Jan-2009 00:00

in that case I would wire it in on the earth side of a relay coil, so that when tilted the relay will drop out, I would then feed the power for either the fuel pump or Coils through the relay contacts so that when the relay drops out the feed is cut.
I would also fit an over ride toggle switch on the dash just in case

Steve GD 21-Jan-2009 09:01

How about wiring it in series with the run/cut-out switch? Would that not be the simplest way to do it?

paynep 21-Jan-2009 09:17

Or don't crash.................oh, it's for Jimbers isn't it !

Chaz 21-Jan-2009 10:06

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Originally Posted by paynep
Or don't crash.................oh, it's for Jimbers isn't it !


Harsh:eek:

skidlids 21-Jan-2009 10:34

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Originally Posted by Steve GD
How about wiring it in series with the run/cut-out switch? Would that not be the simplest way to do it?


The reason I wouldn't do it direct like that is that circuits like the Ignition can draw 7 to 10 amps and unless you know what the tilt switch is rated at may not be a good idea, if its anything like the one on my TL1000S it will not be designed for that sort of current as it only needs to spply an interupt signal to the ECU.
Hence my suggestion to put a relay in series and interupt the relay with the tilt switch

Chaz 21-Jan-2009 13:44

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Originally Posted by skidlids
in that case I would wire it in on the earth side of a relay coil, so that when tilted the relay will drop out, I would then feed the power for either the fuel pump or Coils through the relay contacts so that when the relay drops out the feed is cut.
I would also fit an over ride toggle switch on the dash just in case


Done that today Kev all seems to work ok, Thank's.

skidlids 21-Jan-2009 14:15

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Originally Posted by Chaz
Done that today Kev all seems to work ok, Thank's.


Did you go with a Over ride switch or choose to do with out, as its me riding my own bikes I would go with one, but if its someone else riding my bike I may choose to do without

Chaz 21-Jan-2009 14:56

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Originally Posted by skidlids
Did you go with a Over ride switch or choose to do with out, as its me riding my own bikes I would go with one, but if its someone else riding my bike I may choose to do without


I went without one, keep it simple.

couchcommando 21-Jan-2009 16:31

Get Jimbers to wear a lanyard round his wrist to cut the engine, not when he falls off but when he selects 1st gear. Cuts out the messy bit and you can always throw the bike off a building for the full effect too :)

Chaz 21-Jan-2009 17:04

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Originally Posted by couchcommando
Get Jimbers to wear a lanyard round his wrist to cut the engine, not when he falls off but when he selects 1st gear. Cuts out the messy bit and you can always throw the bike off a building for the full effect too :)


Stop picking on Jimbers! he's assured me that he's far more focused this session, well I think that's what he meant [quote] "No more of those silly low speed crashes for me I'm determined to be much faster this year" :lol: :lol:

jimbers45 21-Jan-2009 17:26

Arse! :lol:....you lot won't be laughing with my front wheel lodged deeply where the sun dont shine on my way to the gravel trap! :frog:

.....and this override switch.....does it work for fear and incompetence and do they sell them at JHP? :roll:


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