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Trudi Riders Rep 24-Feb-2009 14:49

To all dd riders
 
Hi Everyone

Hope you are all getting ready for this season .

Just to say i have been on New Era website and see they have put the forms up for Donnington , Anglesey, Snetterton,

I dont know if people have recieved there New Era packs yet.

BUT THIS IS A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET THERE ENTRY IN FOR DONNINGTON BY MARCH 16TH

You can download the forms of New Era website,

Scooter916 24-Feb-2009 15:17

Thanks hun, Good job you pointed this out early, We were planning on getting down there on the sat eve, reading into the regs, All competetors will be required to be present on both saturday and sunday of the meeting...8. Provisional programme. Looks like I will be leaving friday now. ( strange rule tho)

skidlids 24-Feb-2009 15:37

Probably because Donington isn't a normal NE meeting its part of the Moto 6 Championships and they want to look good on Telly

skidlids 24-Feb-2009 15:39

I can download Mallory (Not DD I know) Donny and Snetterton but not Angelsey (now sorted cheers NickB)

Donny http://www.neweramcc.org/PDF/downloa...90328%20DP.pdf

Angelsey http://www.neweramcc.org/PDF/downloa...90509%20AN.pdf

Snet http://www.neweramcc.org/PDF/downloa...90524%20SN.pdf

Scooter916 24-Feb-2009 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
Probably because Donington isn't a normal NE meeting its part of the Moto 6 Championships and they want to look good on Telly


Ahh A full paddock of people swanning around all day saturday with beer in hand.....

NBs996 24-Feb-2009 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
I can download Mallory (Not DD I know) Donny and Snetterton but not Angelsey


Skids, you can download Anglesey from the list on the right of the page.

skidlids 24-Feb-2009 18:43

Cheers Nick I'll try it tomorrow when I'm back at work

NBs996 24-Feb-2009 18:55

So who else has noticed the cost of transponder hire on the Donny form - £50 deposit + £20 fee!
Is it the same for every round?

skidlids 24-Feb-2009 18:59

Maybe its going to be £10 a day this year
If they are hoping it will generate more money for them that way it will probably backfire as seasons hire costs will be more than buying new

Gbyte666 24-Feb-2009 20:03

Thx Trudy...

Craig

Gbyte666 24-Feb-2009 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBs996
So who else has noticed the cost of transponder hire on the Donny form - £50 deposit + £20 fee!
Is it the same for every round?


Your charging me £25 :o

Craig

NBs996 24-Feb-2009 20:16

Cheques made payable to "NickB Benevolent Fund" please craig.

skidlids 24-Feb-2009 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gbyte666
Thx Trudy...

Craig


I think you mean
"Thx Trudi"

Now go back and edit it, before you end up in hot water, then O can delete my post and nobody will be any the wiser

TP 24-Feb-2009 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
I think you mean
"Thx Trudi"

Now go back and edit it, before you end up in hot water, then O can delete my post and nobody will be any the wiser


What's my delete worth to you both? Hmmmm? :frog:

Gbyte666 24-Feb-2009 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TP
What's my delete worth to you both? Hmmmm? :frog:


Lol, too late Im in too deep doo now. the deed has been done..

There go's my cup of T :)

Point noted... Trudi

Craig

Trudi Riders Rep 25-Feb-2009 08:02

I will let you off i think you got the message lol

Dont worry still make you a cup of tea :-)



Trudi X

skidlids 25-Feb-2009 08:28

Looking at the Donington Meeting, it looks like (and I may be wrong here) all bikes and riders will be Scrutineered on Saturday morning and then do 3-laps of free practice to quallify as per ACU rules.
That'll leave us with our timed practice and two races, It would not suprise me if at least the timed practice was on the Saturday if not race 1, a bit like the Castle Combe Grand National meetings we have done in the past.

Looking at the regs there is at least 13 races, but more like 14 or 15 (does race M6 really include Open, 600s 1000s and sidecars and it says 2 races per class, so a bit confusing) and something along the lines of 13 practice sessions (timed and untimed), so how they spread them out will be a mystery until the time table is announced

Rattler 25-Feb-2009 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
Looking at the Donington Meeting, it looks like (and I may be wrong here) all bikes and riders will be Scrutineered on Saturday morning and then do 3-laps of free practice to quallify as per ACU rules.
That'll leave us with our timed practice and two races, It would not suprise me if at least the timed practice was on the Saturday if not race 1, a bit like the Castle Combe Grand National meetings we have done in the past.

Looking at the regs there is at least 13 races, but more like 14 or 15 (does race M6 really include Open, 600s 1000s and sidecars and it says 2 races per class, so a bit confusing) and something along the lines of 13 practice sessions (timed and untimed), so how they spread them out will be a mystery until the time table is announced


The details are not well written and unclear, can we get official qualification of this? Who are the rider's reps?

Scooter916 25-Feb-2009 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rattler
The details are not well written and unclear, can we get official qualification of this? Who are the rider's reps?

Yup agreed I though I was the only one that thought it was a bit twonk.

injected 25-Feb-2009 10:58

Completely agree. Clear as mud. For an entity supposedly dedicated to bringing novices into the sport, NE certainly does a good job of making it difficult for novices to understand what's going on!

Jolley 25-Feb-2009 12:52

Ahhh... that makes me feel better. I couldn't work out what was going on either, but put it down to it being the first race I had ever entered!! I just figured I would turn up on Sat and see what happened!

Rattler 25-Feb-2009 13:09

In fairness, the forms are usually a lot clearer, take a look at the Snett entry form as an example. The Donny round seems a bit "special", and maybe the form was hastily put together, eitherway it would help to know the timings at least and whether we can enter more than one class, as there are no "additional races" costs listed either. Seems Skids has it about right, but confirmation would be good.

Tim

skidlids 25-Feb-2009 13:09

as the Donington meeting is a European Open Competition organised by New Era to hold the 6 Nations championship, its hardly your normal NE club meeting and as such not really focused on Novice Club racers.

Just look at the team the Irish are putting out
http://www.mcui-uc.org.uk/modules.ph...article&sid=75

As well as the Moto Six Match races there are also two ACU Championship events and then the rest are basically guest classes and as such are there just to make up the numbers.

Still it will hopefully be my first time racing on the full GP circuit and probably the last as its all due to change with F1 going there.

As for additional races, I can't see it happening at this meeting, well not in the normal discounted manner. Dallas is also thinking of entering the Pro-bike as there is no SoT but it will probably cost him a futher £175, my advice to him was save the money and enter other classes at the normal club meets

Dominic Clegg 25-Feb-2009 17:45

looks like we crashed the new era web site

Imola Duke 25-Feb-2009 19:18

Am I right in thinking that we have a mixed grid ?
Looking at the entrie for donny :confused:
If so... ? only 40 riders on the grid!!!

Hi Trudi Senna :)

Trudi Riders Rep 25-Feb-2009 19:23

Hi Steve its does look like mixed grid so you need to get your entry in quick

Trudi (senna)

Imola Duke 25-Feb-2009 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by biker chick
Hi Steve its does look like mixed grid so you need to get your entry in quick

Trudi (senna)


Thanks Trudi :)

Say hello to Kev :)

Scooter916 25-Feb-2009 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by biker chick
Hi Steve its does look like mixed grid so you need to get your entry in quick

Trudi (senna)

How can they say its a mixed grid when they dont have the numbers in yet?????
Seems like Ferk all has changed at new era to me The only race is to the postbox......AGAIN
If this is true, I think rather than NE dribbling out incomprehensible Regs, They need to let people who are spending their hard earned wonga know what they are actually getting for their money. As right at this moment I dont know when the races are Sat or Sunday??? Mixed or not ???
Anyone with a clearer Picture........ Race comittee Perhaps ???

Trudi Riders Rep 25-Feb-2009 19:45

Hi Glyn

I am only going on wont it says on the entry form D1 D2 class A/B

Trudi

Scooter916 25-Feb-2009 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by biker chick
Hi Glyn

I am only going on wont it says on the entry form D1 D2 class A/B

Trudi

Hi Trudibabes
Yes my point exactly that is all we have to go on.... and its as clear as mud innit :(

skidlids 25-Feb-2009 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imola Duke
Am I right in thinking that we have a mixed grid ?
Looking at the entrie for donny :confused:
If so... ? only 40 riders on the grid!!!



Steve at this meeting just like Castle Combe in the past I would expect it to be a mixed grid and thats how it reads to me on the entry form, I thought it was 44 allowed on the grid at Donny but I could be mistaken.

So get your entries in early as its first come first served, if your a reserve it doesn't matter how fast you are in quallifying you will still be a reserve

I have just checked and it is 40 starters and 60 allowed in practice so I was mistaken

nogaromill998 25-Feb-2009 20:39

Why oh why do we have to have mixed grids? Race committee told me earlier this year that we have 42 participating Class B riders this year so whats it all about? Its a DSC race series, do DSC have ANY say in how its run? And if they do, is there a mechanism for informing the money paying participants that they are sharing a grid YET AGAIN?

Scooter916 25-Feb-2009 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogaromill998
Why oh why do we have to have mixed grids? Race committee told me earlier this year that we have 42 participating Class B riders this year so whats it all about? Its a DSC race series, do DSC have ANY say in how its run? And if they do, is there a mechanism for informing the money paying participants that they are sharing a grid YET AGAIN?

Im with you on this one Nog, Best we not let them forget who there end user is.
Ne would do very well to go back to being a club, Running club rounds, Not trying to do too much, Moto six and the caslte coombe rounds just screw there everyday paying club racer.
At this rate New era will be forgotten era next year.

nogaromill998 25-Feb-2009 20:51

Its the first round of the year, so most everyone will want to race. So what happens if EVERYONE gets their entries in in time? 42 Class B, how many Class A ?
DSC needs to lay down some ground rules to NE or whoever the club that runs it in future is, about what the participants expect as a standard. We dont pay any less to have mixed grids....this was my gripe last year too, and it was never resolved. And I am sure the Class A participants are just as aggrieved......
And if DSC HAS laid down the ground rules, and therefore by default KNEW we'd be running a mixed grid.....where was the communication yet again?

skidlids 25-Feb-2009 20:59

Well North Glos mix SoT with MT and don't seem to have a problem and this happens at every round of there club championship.

Maybe if NE didn't host any other series but their own club events they maybe better off, No Moto Six, No Grand National, No Karts, No KTM, No Dutch Ducati Club, No Lansdowne Cup and No Desmo Due

Maybe they should just Stick to GP125, F400, F600, Pro-Bike, Sound of Thunder, CB500, Hornets, and pre inj/Steel frame thats 8 grids so 16 races a day or 24 if they want to go for 3 races per class. I know that worked for them as I found to my cost on several occasions I was a reserve in F600.

Scooter916 25-Feb-2009 21:15

[quote=skidlids]
Maybe if NE didn't host any other series but their own club events they maybe better off, No Moto Six, No Grand National, No Karts, No KTM, No Dutch Ducati Club, No Lansdowne Cup and No Desmo Due
QUOTE]

I think you have taken that bit out of context Kev, Without the NORMAL lodging series New era would be Broke and gone this year, Thundersport have seen to that, or should I say new Era have seen to that themselves.
I was actually refering to The moto 6 and the Grand national or whatever they call it at Castle Coombe, Yea its great for the Boys and girls at NE to be able to shout from the rooftops, We did this and we ran that, But at who's cost is this being done....... Mine mate thats my problem.
How much Money will NE make from the Irish racers that are coming over to do the 6 nations this season, My guess is a whole lot less than they will make from Desmo due. Surely to be a succesfull Race club they must look after their regular customers....Yup us.
If we had comunication from the race commitee most of these worries could be squashed or at least sorted before march.
Just my thoughts

Scooter916 25-Feb-2009 21:21

[quote=skidlids]Well North Glos mix SoT with MT and don't seem to have a problem and this happens at every round of there club championship.
QUOTE]
Fair play But do they have enough of each class to fill a grid???? I feel pretty sure Knowing NG that they would not turn away a possible 30 enrties by running 1 grid and 30 reserves..... But I guess thats why they made a profit last year and New era didnt.

skidlids 25-Feb-2009 21:57

I'm sure DD would get a better deal from NE if we commit to filling both race days at a two day meeting.
It does not suit New Era to just try and run our class on a Sunday (probably wouldn't suit other clubs either)so if we said we would also put out two fairly full grids (say min of 25 on each) on the Saturday as well. So that we end up with 4 championship point scoring races at meetings at Pembrey, Snetterton, Anglesey and both Cadwells then they could try filling the grids at Donny and CC with a differnt guest class

nogaromill998 25-Feb-2009 22:01

Then why do we stick with NE ? Would Bemsee or Thunderbike not be interested in running DD ?
Perhaps I'll just shutup. Seems there are only one or two of us prepared to stick heads over the parapet to get shot at yet everyone moans about it under their breath, and bugger all gets done about it anyway.

skidlids 25-Feb-2009 22:07

I think Thunderbikes would have at one stage, but now that they have filled there grids I should think they are happy with what they have got. They may also have wanted DD to fill grids on both days as every empty grid space on either day is either costing the race club a loss or the racer a higher entry fee. It works best for the race clubs if they are over subscribed and have riders in reserve


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