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Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 14:54

New Bike
 
Im 18 and have about £6,000 for a new bike and about 2000 for insurance, i love ducati's but can't make my mind up what i want ?? suggestions?

Thanks
Lee

DJ Tera 03-Jun-2004 15:20

You might have to go for a carbed ducati - don't think you can restrict the FI ones.

In which case go for a 900 SL :D

ali 03-Jun-2004 15:20

My vote goes to a 800 Monster Dark. Excellent riding position/visibility, not outrageously fast, good hooligan potential and a very under-stressed motor. A mint low-mileage one on autotrader should set you back no more than £5k, keep it garaged and the insurance could be manageable.

Or you could bet the £6k on the 3.30pm at Goodwood, and spend the winnings on 999R....

Good luck,

Ali

Dave G 03-Jun-2004 15:23

I doubt very much whether you'll get any insurance for a superbike at your age.You might want to check a few insurance companies before committing to anything.That said,theres bound to be something for you---er, monsters?,ss's?.
Depend what you want-faired or unfaired?,If your a new rider you wont want something too quirky.(monster again?)
And if your determined to get a ducati,I'd stash away some of your budget to properly service it as they're bikes you neglect at your peril.

ali 03-Jun-2004 15:30

Completely forgot you need to have restrictions. Make that a 750 Monster.

>In which case go for a 900 SL

You don't want a Superlight. They're nonsense. Not enough of em around. They're the sort of bike that should be left in carefully humidity-controlled garages for the next 20 years, and then sold to me for peanuts when mine wears out!

Ali

Founding member of the Superlight Preservation Society

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 15:36

Do they make a 600 monster ?? and thanks for info people :D

antonye 03-Jun-2004 15:39

Quote:

Originally posted by Sgt.Law
Do they make a 600 monster ??

Monster 620
http://www.ducati.com/bikes/my2004/d...delName=620-04

But if it was me, I'd go for the limited edition 620 Capirex...
http://www.ducati.com/scoopage.jhtml...o&scoopNum=055

Mark 03-Jun-2004 15:41

yep, and used to make 620 S/S and 600's

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 15:41

I'd go for the 620 Capirex as well that is one nice looking bike :D

Mark 03-Jun-2004 15:43

indeed law, saw several at the factory, class bikes, and look

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 15:44

come up with this search on bike trader

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...&search=SEARCH

The 6th one down looks alright

[Edited on 3-6-2004 by Sgt.Law]

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 15:49

Hey if ya want add me to msn makes it easier to talk :D

Mark 03-Jun-2004 15:50

which one? :lol:

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 15:52

LoL "1999 DUCATI MONSTER Dark 600, S-reg, 1 previous owner, 12 months MOT/Tax, rare Millennium Edition with yellow frame" that one 6th down :D

Mark 03-Jun-2004 15:52

at work, can't access msn from here, welcome to add me to u're list however

Mark 03-Jun-2004 15:56

modified u're search

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW...earch =SEARCH

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 16:00

They all looks good :D i like the way the monster sits but i have alos wanted a bike that can be tuned. is the monster a good bike for that :D

[Edited on 3-6-2004 by Sgt.Law]

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 16:22

Also need a new helmet and jacket as mines looking preety worn out and have had it for 2 years any websites you can recomened and brand's would be nice

Mark 03-Jun-2004 16:24

j@s etc, loads in mcn in mart section


don't know about tuning a 620, better off with a 750 for that

Sgt.Law 03-Jun-2004 16:28

:D ill just do normal stuff exhaust bit of carbonfibre here and there :D thnx man

AK 03-Jun-2004 17:38

The boys are right about getting your insurance quotes first.
Remember, that anything over £5k is likely going to cost you lots more, as you are under 21 (dont ask me, but thats the way they seem to go).
Over 500cc at 18 could also cost you for insurance too
Have you done your test yet?
Maybe Ronnie at insuremyducati.com could help out on this one?

Just an idea for you: my daughter at 17 & 7 months got an old NC21 (1987 model), 2 years no claims, garaged, non commute, and 1st year - from the cheapest quote cost her £1280!!! (this year at 20, came down to £385, still no claims or convictions....yet!)

Easy to restrict the carbed monsters - not too sure about the injected ones. That said, havent heard of any monster over 600 that has been restricted yet (least, not on the UKMOC site).

Happy researching - and good luck with whatever you get

:D

C

[Edited on 3-6-2004 by CK and AK]

Borat 03-Jun-2004 18:08

It is possible to get a Monster 620 already resticted to 25Kw not sure of HP
see Ducati.com

Sgt.Law 04-Jun-2004 10:32

Thanks all been really helpfull i will be seen on this forum much more :D will check insurance right away!

antonye 04-Jun-2004 10:58

Don't forget that there's also a Monster 400 - it's just that we don't get it in the UK. It might be worth trying to find an imported one, but get a quote first.

Although the bike will probably be under the figures for restricted bikes, the fact it's a grey import may up the insurance too much.

Just another option to throw in!

TJ 04-Jun-2004 12:52

I had a ZX6R at 18, and had no problems insuring it third party fire and theft, now im 21 and insuring a 748R with a London address no problems either.. go for a 748 mate, you know it makes sense! ;)


TJ

Mark 04-Jun-2004 12:56

748, the connoisseurs choice! :frog:

TP 04-Jun-2004 12:59

748R at 21!!!!! I was on a 1 tonne Z1000!!

I wish I could have afforded something like that when I was 21 .... migh tbe on a 998R by now if I did ....

DJ Tera 04-Jun-2004 14:32

I wouldnt go for a monster 600/620 - far too gutless and you'll get bored of it pretty quickly, go for the 900 - it wont cost too much to insure, I was paying 1200 TPFT on a fireblade at 19, and that's group 17 :o

AK 04-Jun-2004 14:35

Even the M1000sie is only group 12 - same engine as the multistrimmer - 992cc:D

C

TJ 04-Jun-2004 16:18

tp-996

Hate to think what ill have in 2 years time :puzzled: ...


:eureka: 999R :smug:

TP 04-Jun-2004 16:25

Quote:

Originally posted by TJ
tp-996

Hate to think what ill have in 2 years time :puzzled: ...


:eureka: 999R :smug:

Lucky bugger!

Although I'd prefer the 998R methinks, each to his own, all different types to make a world blah blah etc etc ...

;)

This 998R idea is gathering momentum ... maybe I should stop spending so much money on the 996 ....

stop selling me carbon you lot !!!! :o

:lol:

[Edited on 4-6-2004 by tp-996]

TJ 04-Jun-2004 16:38

Actually ill probably for for a 998R or a MV F4 1000 (according to MCN this is will be better than the R1 and RSV) but again MVs are uninsurable for under 28s, i tried but no success, anyway ive already got an MV to play with ;)

Jewell 04-Jun-2004 16:50

Quote:

Originally posted by Sgt.Law
Im 18 and have about £6,000 for a new bike and about 2000 for insurance, i love ducati's but can't make my mind up what i want ?? suggestions?

Thanks
Lee

this your first road bike mate?

TJ 04-Jun-2004 17:25

Hi,

If this ‘is’ your first bike I strongly wouldn’t recommend getting a 748 or 900 Monster or any bike twin!

Its best to start off with something a little smaller and a little cheaper. Remember at the end of the day no matter how good you think you are, you will drop it especially if experience is minute and you are riding a powerful twin. I must stress that power delivery on twins is totally diverse to 4s and smaller bikes i.e. small singles. Also big twins, if not used properly they can throw you off especially in the wet.

I advise getting something a little smaller as a starter/first bike... i.e. a little 400 or a SV650.

I started with a 50cc at 16, then a 125, then I got a ZXR400, which was a great little bike, then, a ZX6R, again after that I bought a new CBR600RR (after I had built up my experience on the others and crashed them) and then the 748R.

I’ve got to admit I was like you, I also wanted to go out and spend loads of money on a big bike, but that really wouldn’t have been a clever idea.

If this is your first bike, and you have had little road experience and the bike is mainly for road riding, then 6k to spend on a bike is not the way to do things! You can learn the hard or easy way. Trust me the hard way isn’t nice, I remember seeing my parents faces’ when I had my first ‘big’ crash when I was 17 (which incidentally was another road users fault), it wasn’t good, my mother was heart broken. If I had bought a brand new shiny Duke, and this happened it would have cost major $$$, luckily it was only a little 125 and was easily sorted J Had the same problem with cars, but because I remembered my past experiences I held out on a sports car till a year ago.

Riding bikes on the road is not easy (not trying to put you off), there are many dangers that can be caused both by the riders and others (i.e. car drivers, pedestrians etc). For a start, most people can’t see bikes nor do they understand that the balance is different to four wheels when you are on a bike.

You are still young and have years to come, take it step by step!

Remember it isn’t always good to have it all at once, you get bored too easily, this is the same with girls.


My 2p.

All the best and good luck with what ever you do.

TJ

Jewell 04-Jun-2004 17:50

well said TJ.

6k for a first bike is way OTT.

In my very honest opnion i wouldn't go for a duke as a first bike,why not a gixxer 600 or Kwak 636?more than enough power for public roads.

And you always crash your first bike,id rather crash a gixxer or kwak than a nice 748.

Im 18 as well,
I had a cagiva mito 125 first and now a 400,both awesome handling bikes and after this summer,im selling my nc30 and getting a TL1000.
and dont want a ducati yet even tho i could buy a 2nd hand one.

plus if you buy a 600,you could buy a decent one for 3300 MAX and save about a grand on insurance and buy sum decent leathers and lid.:saint:

TJ 04-Jun-2004 17:55

Yup protection is important too!

Remember no point having a fast bike and no protection.

TJ 04-Jun-2004 17:57

Jewell, why are you on a Ducati forum when you have a Rice burner? :frog: :flame:

Jewell 04-Jun-2004 18:11

Quote:

Originally posted by TJ
Jewell, why are you on a Ducati forum when you have a Rice burner? :frog: :flame:

because i love Ducatis:)


and good on ya for wanting a 998R,my dream bike,none of that 999 crap:D;)

TJ 04-Jun-2004 18:40

What i really want is a 360 spider.. wonder how nice my bank manager is :puzzled:

Jewell 04-Jun-2004 18:44

nah sod that.cant rolling endo it or do wheelies or get ya elbow down on it.:saint:


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