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andyturner 21-Apr-2011 12:06

I'm going back to Mallory!
 
Hi,

after the ass whoopping I got last weekend I'm going back to Mallory with a lap timer for some practice. Providing,

a. I can get some new wheel bearings

b. The lap timer arrives in the post

I'll be going back this Wednesday.

...does anyone else want to come?

Regards,
Andy

ells 21-Apr-2011 12:41

I am also returning but going with No Limits in May. While happy with a lot of the course I was going so slowly round Edwinas it was embarrasing. Slow corners and getting on the gas quickly is a weakness I must improve.

Mark

andyturner 21-Apr-2011 12:52

Your embarrassed?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ells
I was going so slowly round Edwinas it was embarrasing.


Dude - I got overtaken by a some kid on a push bike! :mad:

Anyway, I've got all week off next week and its only £55 from 13:30 to 17:00HRS. If it turns out to open pit lane then you could have up to 3 hours track time for £55!!!!!!

Regards,
Andy

bradders 21-Apr-2011 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyturner
Dude - I got overtaken by a some kid on a push bike! :mad:

Anyway, I've got all week off next week and its only £55 from 13:30 to 17:00HRS. If it turns out to open pit lane then you could have up to 3 hours track time for £55!!!!!!

Regards,
Andy



enjoy Andy

what worked for me was concentrating on Edwinas to Bus Stop - took at least 4 secs off my time alone - the rest is easy after that ;)

andyturner 27-Apr-2011 21:55

Went back, scrubbed some time and met some cool people!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bradders
enjoy Andy

what worked for me was concentrating on Edwinas to Bus Stop - took at least 4 secs off my time alone - the rest is easy after that ;)


hhhmm?
a. You're right. Didn't make 4 seconds but did make 3 seconds over all.
b. Bollox - the rest is not easy! That said managed to get round Gerrards entering in 5 gear at 6000 rpm. Note to self: Need bigger testicles.

During the racing my best was 115 secs. Today I was making 112's. If I go 4 more times between now and Anglesey, washing off 3 seconds a time, then maybe I stand a chance :lol:

Best regards,
Andy - No.31
PS. On the testicles note, I'm off too play with my vacuum cleaner :roll:

Ghost 27-Apr-2011 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyturner
hhhmm?
a. You're right. Didn't make 4 seconds but did make 3 seconds over all.
b. Bollox - the rest is not easy! That said managed to get round Gerrards entering in 5 gear at 6000 rpm. Note to self: Need bigger testicles.

During the racing my best was 115 secs. Today I was making 112's. If I go 4 more times between now and Anglesey, washing off 3 seconds a time, then maybe I stand a chance :lol:

Best regards,
Andy - No.31
PS. On the testicles note, I'm off too play with my vacuum cleaner :roll:



Well done on the improvement Andy, but...............you are aware that Anglesea is F**all like Mallory. :D

bradders 27-Apr-2011 23:29

quality result mate

many of us never been to angglesey so will be a leveller

Imola Duke 28-Apr-2011 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradders
enjoy Andy

what worked for me was concentrating on Edwinas to Bus Stop - took at least 4 secs off my time alone - the rest is easy after that ;)


Mush, you forgot Gerrards in that statement ;)
Well done on the Fast bit of mallory if you get it right! which you did :)
No engine knocking noise excuses from you! :lol:

bradders 28-Apr-2011 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imola Duke
Mush, you forgot Gerrards in that statement ;)
Well done on the Fast bit of mallory if you get it right! which you did :)
No engine knocking noise excuses from you! :lol:



:lol:

nah gerrards is easy - just hold yer breath and chuck it is, after couple of laps job done!! The hard bit is the technical bit.....

Jolley 28-Apr-2011 11:14

I assume you mean 1m12s and not 112s, which is nearly 2 mins......

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradders
many of us never been to angglesey so will be a leveller

Phil, Kev and Jimbo have all been, so thay can show us round. By the time we have all completed a few laps on Friday it will not matter who has or hasn't been.... but then, I think that is the case with most tracks. The only advantage if you have been before is that you may be faster in the first 2 sessions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradders
:lol:

nah gerrards is easy - just hold yer breath and chuck it is, after couple of laps job done!! The hard bit is the technical bit.....

Gerrards is relatively easy to enter fast, but most were not making the most of the bend itself. I was making up a good half second on most people through the bend despite entering at the same speed.

bradders 28-Apr-2011 13:28

Phil, Kev and Jimbo have all been, so thay can show us round. By the time we have all completed a few laps on Friday it will not matter who has or hasn't been.... but then, I think that is the case with most tracks. The only advantage if you have been before is that you may be faster in the first 2 sessions.


and watching lots and lots and lots of youtube laps helps so at least I know where it goes left;right;straight on

cant wait :D


and know what you mean about Gerrards....

Simps 28-Apr-2011 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolley

Gerrards is relatively easy to enter fast, but most were not making the most of the bend itself. I was making up a good half second on most people through the bend despite entering at the same speed.


I agree and I think I did most of my overtaking in race one in Gerrards when coming from the back, the trick with Gerrards is to enter at a good pace and exit on full throttle, for most of us mere mortals. I heard talk of a certain class A person entering on full throttle but dont think thats for me yet.

I think if you dont know how to really ride a fast corner like that, hanging right off the bike, bike cranked over but not too much and the gas coming on progressively then you can end up in the kitty litter. A few years ago I went in too fast and when I started to miss the apex I dialed in more lean and went off the tyre. I didnt need to dial in more lean I actually just needed to get more of my weight to the inside and keep the bike more upright. I 100% believe these corners are about technique, I would suggest to build up or you will come off and your confidence will go with it.

Also I think that the weather we have had in the last couple of rounds combined with these tyres has made for VERY sticky rides.

Think it might be a little like traction control on cars making people faster than they would be otherwise, or in our case keeping us upright. I think that if it is cooler in Anglesey or the track is a bit cold/damp and people dont get the technique right then some of us might find these fast corners a bit more interesting :eek:

Jolley 28-Apr-2011 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradders
and watching lots and lots and lots of youtube laps helps so at least I know where it goes left;right;straight on

cant wait :D


and know what you mean about Gerrards....

I can't do the YouTube thing. It doesn't help me at all. I hav tried, but I can never remember anything from them. It usually only takes me about 3 laps to work out where I'm goin anyway.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 955SP
I heard talk of a certain class A person entering on full throttle but dont think thats for me yet.

Also I think that the weather we have had in the last couple of rounds combined with these tyres has made for VERY sticky rides.

Think it might be a little like traction control on cars making people faster than they would be otherwise, or in our case keeping us upright. I think that if it is cooler in Anglesey or the track is a bit cold/damp and people dont get the technique right then some of us might find these fast corners a bit more interesting :eek:

Wasn't hat guy the chap that went straight off?! ;)

I know what you mean about the grip though. Confidence is building and building right now because they are so much better than the old tyres. Soon we will all be on the limit of these ones and it could get messy. The odd thing for me is I haven't even found near the limit with these yet... They seem to do everything you ask of them and I haven't even had a half slide yet. That was one of the things I was pondering over whilst I was forced to sit out the Mallory races.

Simps 28-Apr-2011 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolley
They seem to do everything you ask of them and I haven't even had a half slide yet. That was one of the things I was pondering over whilst I was forced to sit out the Mallory races.


On the last or 2nd to last lap on race 2 mid way round Gerrards, pretty much full throttle my rear had a bit of a slide and I thought to myself.... ok then these tyres do have a limit!

I could be very wrong but looking at the state of the inside edge of my rear tyre I think that the suspension isnt setup quite right. After the two races at brands, where I wasnt exactly taking it easy and Mallory race 1, by the last few laps of race 2 they were losing grip. Might be and idea to keep an eye on your tyres gentlemen!

Bionicle 28-Apr-2011 19:10

I found the limit to the tyres at Cadwell today going through the gooseneck :( the front went with no warning

bradders 28-Apr-2011 19:40

I had a couple of small slides and a couple of quite large ones; all controlled, no fears, just drifted a little and kept going forward. Especially out of the hairpin

when I got my knee down race two I could enter with even throttle, no roll off but not wide open, and as soon as on its side open wide again

I loved that corner before, love it even more now :D

love it


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