Cadwell 4th & 5th July
 

NOTE; THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR THE DSC TRACKDAY, WE MAY DO THAT AS WELL IF THE DATE SUITS

So, a few of us have decided to get some dates in now and, from the other thread, seems a few others may be interetsed in joining us

I have spoken with No Limits and Mark has agreed to hold 20 spaces for me on both these two dates. He is offering a 10% discount for anyone booking for this with us lot :) He cant guarantee a full group of Ducati only, as we will probably be mainly spread over Novice and Inters (those who have said they will go)

Now, I appreciate some may wish to hold off until the DSC day is announced as I can understand the attraction as a preference if only doing 1 TD this year and/or funds are tight and Mark is holding these spaces open for 2 weeks.

From their website, the Monday is £99 and the Tuesday £125 but open pit lane :D

I have agreed with the others committed already we will not do anything until we know who is committing, so I can give Mark a list of names and we can be sure of filling these spaces. I expect we will start booking from Monday next week, after Popham this week as we will see a lot of the Berks and other Hants mob

So if you fancy it, name here please and which day (or both) and what group (bear in mind its a general trackday) I can get a list going. You will need to call them direct on 01727 899173 to book.

NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters





AND TO REITERATE THIS IS IN NO WAY DESIGNED TO DETRACT FROM ANY DSC EVENT :)

NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters :)

NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters :)
Loz - both days - inters (am I inters? I'm rusty!)

NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters
Loz - both days - inters (am I inters? I'm rusty!)
Ghost - Monday - inters. But will see if I can russle up some others as well. :D

[quote=Ghost]NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters
Loz - both days - inters (am I inters? I'm rusty!)
Ghost - Monday - inters. But will see if I can russle up some others as well.
Pete B - both days - inters

Guys, if you're going to sign up for this there's no point in doing another DSC trackday...

It's in the "Non DSC Events" Antonye, so can't see what the problem is, members get together for lots of things, that's what a "Club" is about....isn't it?

I see why Ant cannot announce the DSC dates at this time (political reasons, courtesy reasons, commercial considerations etc) but the fact remains that some members want to do a track day with other club members and time's getting away from us in terms of the summer. Plans have to be made, annual leave booked, etc.

The message board always used to be used to sort out impromptu or unofficial TDs - nothing wrong with that. If support for the DSC trackday is there, it will be there regardless of individual club members making informal arrangements for unofficial trackdays. Bradders has asked for an official date - it cannot be supplied at this point so he is sorting a TD not as an alternative, but because he wants to do a TD with some mates.

I hope feelings won't be hurt by any pf this, it isn't political, just practical.

NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters
Loz - both days - inters (am I inters? I'm rusty!)
Ghost - Monday - inters. But will see if I can russle up some others as well.
Pete B - both days - inters
Gbyte666 Both days whatever group

No can do.
Already booked monster TD on the 1st July at Mallory for Toni and also booked the Thursday TD (not the test day) at cadwell for both of us before the racing in August.
Plus Pembrey racing in July and what ever the DSC come up with.

Inters Bradders, with racing experience thought you'd be in fast group. Well put me down. Inters or fast group for me please ;)


NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters
Loz - both days - inters (am I inters? I'm rusty!)
Ghost - Monday - inters. But will see if I can russle up some others as well.
Pete B - both days - inters
Gbyte666 Both days whatever group
848spence - Both days inters or fast group ;)

NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters
Loz - both days - inters (am I inters? I'm rusty!)
Ghost - Monday - inters. But will see if I can russle up some others as well.
Pete B - both days - inters
Gbyte666 Both days whatever group
848spence - Both days inters or fast group ;)[/quote]
Nev748 and mate Robin-both days, novice

You should go along with Bradders the jobs almost done for you, or wonder why there isn't enough takers later;)

ha maybe, but with 50 hp and a 2min lap I wuld only be in inters on a normal day...maybe with a nice 848 things woudl be different ;)

Will you have a 583 by then, thats the question ;)

you coming for a wobble then Chaz?? :)

The problem is that all the planning work has been done for the "official" DSC trackday but the date can't be released until the DUK silverstone ££££fest is done.

Now potential "official" DSC trackday attendees have the option to go for one of three dates.

The DUK date that they know
The "Official" DSC day date that they don't know.
Bradders mates go mad at cadders funfest date that they know.

IMHO dates should be released as soon as they are known, are DUK that unsure of the pull of their event that they want to keep information about another under wraps?


Ray.

Ray,
they probably are if the alternatives are significantly cheaper with more track time.

I do agree that dates should be announced, even if provisional. Otherwise us lot have no idea something is in the pipeline and run the risk of booking other events.

Not at Cadwell just can't get on with the place, would do Donny or Snett;)

NAMES
Bradders - both days - inters
Dementor - both days - inters
Loz - both days - inters (am I inters? I'm rusty!)
Ghost - Monday - inters. But will see if I can russle up some others as well.
Pete B - both days - inters
Gbyte666 Both days whatever group
848spence - Both days inters or fast group ;)[/quote]
Nev748 and mate Robin-both days, novice
Reg ( Badger bating game keeper ) one or both ? Inters

Just trying to find one at the right price really. You dont know of anyone with race prepped bike for sale do you? looked in dd section.

there must be someone with one, there are a few out there

I'll ask about....


Can we take the politics elsewhere please; just want to do a trcakday with new and old mates and have a good couple of days :)

Unfortunately in this situation, we (the DSC) are the small fry in the situation! We have to remember when to speak up and when to STFU! ;)

Am I correct in saying that the Monster Owners Club trackday is in the public domain ?!

Sorry Paul I'll get me coat ;)

Guys,If Ant already has a date provisonally sorted, Why not wait two weeks until after the DUK thing at Silverstone and then when he can release the date and location,decide if it's what you want or whether you want to do your own thing? I appreciate that you are desperate to get on track,but it does seem a bit like it's undermining Ants work for a DSC trackday.Also,in the current financial climate,if your proposed get together and the DSC trackday are close,there is no way alot of people will be able to find the money.

I am going to wait and I think the decent thing would be for you to,also.But that's just my opinion!

Jasper, absolutley agree with waiting if you like, I said so at the beginning.

No disrespect to the DSC or anyone at the top (and I said politics elesewhere!!) but...how many times have we had a promise which either hasn't materialised or no where near on time or, dare I say, been so lacking in detail that we need a freindly local dealer to bail it out

I need to book leave; my mates who want to do a 2 day track day need to book leave; NL are happy to accomodate a few of us and offer us a discount too, and we like NL :)

This is the motiovation for us doing a trackday ourselves :) if this place was busier, it would be lost in the noise of all the other things going on. I have also exchanged messages with Ozz on ISC (where I am not excatoly that welcome ;) ) and asked what they are doing as a fair number of old mates are on there these days not here of FB

I have had the debate locally whether it could scupper anything DUK are doing; and disagree it could. A £500 event designed for new bike owners and a certain rider/customer is not the same as a DSC trackday. Who pays the subs? DUK?! Sorry, can see both sides but belive there to be no reason why an announcement, if there is one, couldnt have come weeks or even months ago.

So, as about 20 are up for it, I shall be booking Monday and letting Mark know the names or those who have said yes. TBH it would be great to see a load of the old DSC guys (incl you Jasp obviously) but this started as a day discussed at loomies on a Weds night :)

happy riding and back to the thread....

Paul, Can you please wait a few weeks, as Ant has said we have our hands tied and can not announce anything till after the DUK event.



Chris:burn:

I have been holding back on this one, i can see both sides of the argument, Paul we have been M8s for a while now and this is no disrespect to you m8 it just seems to me to be going off at a tangent, i did a cadwell track day last thursday along with another m8 and DSC member but i never tried to encourage other DSC members to come along maybe i should have i dont know.

There has been a hell of a lot of bridge building that has been going on in the back ground as far as the DSC is concerned as i am sure you are aware, without the DSC would there even have been a DSC DD shedual this year ?

I have nothing against people sorting a track day nor do i think do any of the present DSC members team, but if it conflicts with a proposed DSC event then i can understand Ants comment earler on in this thread.

Personaly i dont like taking my 996 or my Bayliss out on track with a load of Jap bikes with riders who seem to think of a Ducati as a target rather than another rider enjoying a safe day on track, i used to love the DSC trackdays mainly because everyone was on a Ducati and showed respect when passing etc after all no one wants to bin a cherished road bike, or their DD bike for that matter, and as you know i even used to travel all the way from Denmark just to participate. So for me i think i would rather wait and see what the DSC team have in the pipe line before putting my name down.

As i said this is no reflection on you or your efforts to get a group of like minded guys together what concerns me is if what the team have in mind could fall flat on its face if its for the weekend after and people have just had a one or two day track day, these people will more than likely through budget constraints not be able to attend a DSC organised event, as far as i am aware other Ducati related sights often have trackdays and encourage friends etc to attend but at the end of the day these are just normal track days anyone can attend, i first joined the club for the "exclutisity" (most likely spelt wrong) of attending DSC related trackdays and events, this lead to me joining DD after having sponserd a few guys for a number of years.

For this club to grow it needs that exclutisity (spelt wrong again no doubt) and while for now i may be a member of the new Membership team, this in no way reflects my point of view on how i feel about this, i would feel the same way if i were just a member, again no disrespect to you m8 but this club has benifited you, not only from the DD racing but also a platform for you to propose this event.

Your enthusiasum is to be comended, maybe you should join the membership team and help the club grow, but to be honest have you considderd the impications of organising a track day event when you are aware that a club one is in the pipe line and that there could be a clash of interests.

As i said this is just my view, the old guard may have just deleted your posts as a conflict of interests thats why i joined the present team, to see that the old ways were buried and that everything was above board.

I hope that all goes well with your proposed event, i just hope that it does not conflict or deter members from joining a DSC organised track day, i dont know the details myself yet but i for one am going to wait and see what is proposed before comitting myself to another venue.

Paul

many peolpe I dont see that regularly, and some onkly communicate thru looking here even if not posting.

Understand the sentiment but if you or anyone really thinks me speaking with a few mates, and only 20 spaces remember, is going to scupper anything the DSC are organising you need to look at the DSC not me

TBH I take offence at the clear suggestion several times now that I have done this for an alternative aim; sheer bollox. If DSC team are too slow to react to the member needs we'll do our own thing. Its May. Another few weeks it will be June. Someone remind me who's club this is and who pays the subscriptions?!

A quick google seems only we have this restriction then....funny how other clubs have been working on and announced months ago...even on DUK website

http://www.ducatiuk.com/news/uk_mons.../1950/index.do


http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...ad.php?t=39813

fact is, I HAVE to book time off in advance, I have racing weekends and days committed and others have similar. I want to do Cadwell, and I want to do it with as many mates as possible; the fun is as much off as on the track. End of.

But I guess when the DSC fail to get the numbers or fail to get anything sorted they now have a ready made scape goat coz I dared to 'take' in oothers words those who would have attended. Laughable. Really is laughable.

I wioll stop typing nmow as I am right ****ed off by this. And any more and friendships could be broken.

I'll post on FB, probably ISC too thru Mike or Dave and my MATES who are going will be booking, so anyone who does fancy it call NL direct and book, mention my name/the block booking and you should get the 10%. I will email Mark with the names I have so far.

see you all at Anglesey, those that go.

Same old dsc :rolleyes:

Bradders, don't worry, I see your point entirely and respect it: you want to do a trackday asap so you've organised one - more power to your elbow! My concern was that your efforts would be seen as an alternative to the "yet to be announced" DSC day, and with money being tight for everyone at the moment it would be a choice of your trackday or the DSC one.

As Roy pointed out, this is a forum for the club and if you want to get some mates together to go on a trackday then we're (the DSC) happy to provide the website for you to do that.

It's fair to say that there has been a lot of effort put into running the DSC by the MT and we have endured nothing but abuse and sniping from certain quarters, and it often feels like everything we do is wasted. Emotions run high whenever our efforts are undermined and I think sometimes that certain people don't realise how even a minor flippant remark or dig can really question why we do this - all for nowt! I even paid my membership renewal fee this month, and I'm the bloody chairman and the club owes me quite a chunk of money as well as countless hours of my spare time that I won't get back!

However, I am very proud to say that I have delivered on nearly every single point of my original statement about turning the club around (and there's still more to come yet!) with the help of the team around me. The fact that the club still exists, you guys are racing in DD again this year, the website is still here, you got a Pronto on your doormat (with another being created), we have our DDOC membership renewed, we did a factory trip, we are organising a track day ... so please forgive the occaisional outburst when it appears all this effort is for nought!

Looking at the dates you have it shouldn't be an issue with what we have planned, so please continue and let's all get back to enjoying this glorious weather!

Mate,

I wasn't having a personal attack at you(and I certainly don't believe Paul was either) and as Ant has said all power to your elbow for having the enthusiasm to get up and sort something.

I did see in your first post you pointed out that you weren't trying to replace a DSC track day,just to get some track time with some mates.

If I have offended you,I apologise.It wasn't meant to come out like that.

As Paul said,the OLD DSC would have been different,but the NEW DSC is delivering everything that it has said it would,and I'm sure the TD will be the same.I also have to book leave,as I work shifts(including alternate weekends) so I am desperate to know as well!!

As Paul said,the OLD DSC would have been different,but the NEW DSC is delivering everything that it has said it would,and I'm sure the TD will be the same.I also have to book leave,as I work shifts(including alternate weekends) so I am desperate to know as well!!

Still the old secret service though;)

It may seem like that,but I believe it is DUK that are holding the announcement back,not DSC.

Ant has already said that he isn't allowed to release the dates.Not exactly his fault!

Since when has DUK been in control of the DSC or run the track days???

I understand Chaz's point here and also wonder why it is the DSC out of all the various clubs that has to delay announcing its trackday event. Nevertheless, I choose to trust that Antony has genuine reasons for delaying the announcement.

In addition, I would like to thank Antony for his well measured post in response to Bradders, in fact I applaud it.

If the DSC TD is scheduled for dates that I can accommodate in my own schedule, I will attend. The shorter the timescale, the less chance I have of being able to attend, but if that's the way of it, so be it. Meantime, there's an informal TD with lots of Duke owners I know, on dates that I can attend - so I am attending :)

As for the cost issue, I cannot afford ANY trackdays this year, so if I end up doing two ... well, too bad ;)

As far as I know it isn't.But being the DUCATI sporting club,why would you want to pi55 off the importer if they requested you do something?

Surely as a "factory/company" as affiliated club we should do what Ducati ask us to do? I am sure there will be a good reason!

I have avoided this thread sine my girly strop but was pointed here to read Ant's post.

I'm glad you get the point, and seem to clearly understand why and what I am doing getting a TD date in the diary for me and my mates, whom have been discussing a date for some weeks, maybe months. I am not oganising anything tho, simply asked for a discount and collated some info for the best dates. If its only the 8 or 10 of the Hants/Berks regulars who go, that will still be fantatstic.

Its a shame some seem to think its ill thought thru, or with a hint of a side agenda; its not on either case. Of course if some decide to do this, pay the money then the DSC annouce a 2 day event or similar which means they cant go to both and are committed it is awkward. In which cse if it were me I would wait

a few of use at Popham today are booking tomorrow and I'll be posting just a names-booked thread for the dates as it would be nice to know who else is going, no other reason. There will be a few old friends aho are going too who dont get on here any more

Will be booking tomorrow too :) .....can't wait, can we go now please :) :)

Cadwell 4th & 5th July
 

Hello Bradders,

Good to catch up with you today. I'd be delighted to attend, however checking my calender it clashes with my plans for the Henley Royal Regatta the weekend prior. We have friends to stay over the weekend and I would not be very popular if I pushed them out the door to go to Cadwell :mad:

However thanks indeed for asking, and all credit to you for orchestrating the event.

Really sorry I would be able to make it. All being well I'll take part in the DSC trackday later in the summer.

Best regards,

James

Right who's booked?
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Dementor both days inters

New "Who's booked" thread here http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/sh...ad.php?t=84368