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Simps 13-Jun-2011 17:57

Snet fast lap predictions?
 
Just wondering what the general opinion is about fastest lap time that the likes of Ron and Phil might be posting come Saturday?

Sorted 13-Jun-2011 18:16

Round about 0.5sec slower than ours Hugh ;)

Simps 13-Jun-2011 18:42

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Originally Posted by Sorted
Round about 0.5sec slower than ours Hugh ;)


I would be very happy if I would be that quick but I am getting a bit slower each round while others are getting quicker so think I might be a little bit further down the order this time. I would be over the moon with a top 5 at Snet, but just spent a small fortune on new kit so plan on driving like Miss Daisy. Only thing that I plan touching the floor this time is the soles of my boots!

Ghost 13-Jun-2011 19:05

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Originally Posted by 955SP
I would be very happy if I would be that quick but I am getting a bit slower each round while others are getting quicker so think I might be a little bit further down the order this time. I would be over the moon with a top 5 at Snet, but just spent a small fortune on new kit so plan on driving like Miss Daisy. Only thing that I plan touching the floor this time is the soles of my boots!


No predictions from me, far too old for that game. :D I've been studying the map layout but in all honesty it means nothing till you are there doing it.

Just going to use the test day to learn, build and hopefully be correct on the gearing, which I'm about to change tonight in readiness with a semi educated guess. :D

Bionicle 13-Jun-2011 19:33

Chris.P and myself just changed my gearing, not sure it will make much difference to my lap times though, first time i will see the new layout will be during first practice Saturday.

Ghost 13-Jun-2011 19:51

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Originally Posted by Bionicle
Chris.P and myself just changed my gearing, not sure it will make much difference to my lap times though, first time i will see the new layout will be during first practice Saturday.


Lets just hope for dryness as no one has tried these awesome dry tyres in the wet yet. :D

Sorted 13-Jun-2011 19:52

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Originally Posted by Ghost
No predictions from me, far too old for that game. :D Ditto Phil and a year older on the Friday (well technically only a day older than the Thursday):) I've been studying the map layout but in all honesty it means nothing till you are there doing it.

Just going to use the test day to learn, build and hopefully be correct on the gearing, which I'm about to change tonight in readiness with a semi educated guess. :D


Now I know a lot of peeps play it close to their chest but not me... 14/41 or 14/40 is about right with my engine ;)

Sorted 13-Jun-2011 19:54

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Originally Posted by Ghost
Lets just hope for dryness as no one has tried these awesome dry tyres in the wet yet. :D


I tried them on a TD at the end of Feb. on a wet Snetterton 300 circuit ;)

1st session new tyre and very wet so toodled round.. 2nd session dryish line a bit quicker.. 3rd session fuelling probs so broke down 3 times in 5laps and then went home :mad:

Forecast is rain Thursday... Sunshine Friday... Raining Saturday and Sunday at the moment, so fingers crossed they get it wrong.

Simps 13-Jun-2011 20:51

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Originally Posted by Ghost
No predictions from me, far too old for that game. :D



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Originally Posted by Sorted
Ditto Phil and a year older on the Friday (well technically only a day older than the Thursday)


Cant believe that you both are young enough to race but too old to have a guess on what a quick lap might be around Snet?!

It wasnt for money or honour, I was just curious what people thought as I havent got a clue what to aim for.

As for gearing Ive only used the one for all the races so far this year and I havent got a clue what that is! Not had any experience playing with sprockets, perhaps I might do that with all the testing time I will have on Friday!

Simps 13-Jun-2011 20:52

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Originally Posted by Ghost
Lets just hope for dryness as no one has tried these awesome dry tyres in the wet yet. :D



What about the first practice at Anglesey? Wasnt raining but the track was pretty wet from what I remember.

Ghost 13-Jun-2011 21:18

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Originally Posted by 955SP
What about the first practice at Anglesey? Wasnt raining but the track was pretty wet from what I remember.


Was it?? I must be suffering from that ailment. I can't recall what they call it now. :D

As its new to us I don't think there is anything to aim for it will be what it is and peeps will hang onto each other and get pulled along or hopefully left behind. :D Its going to work those tyres.

Oulton Park is just short of 2.7 miles Sam West was on a 2:04 this Snett is very nadjerry and 3 miles so I'm going to have a rough guess at 2:38. :eek:

Simps 13-Jun-2011 21:47

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Originally Posted by Ghost
Was it?? I must be suffering from that ailment. I can't recall what they call it now. :D

As its new to us I don't think there is anything to aim for it will be what it is and peeps will hang onto each other and get pulled along or hopefully left behind. :D Its going to work those tyres.

Oulton Park is just short of 2.7 miles Sam West was on a 2:04 this Snett is very nadjerry and 3 miles so I'm going to have a rough guess at 2:38. :eek:



Over 2 1/2 mins a lap, wow! I think there is a genuine fear that I might have a snooze on the straights. I like tracks like Brands, short and sweet with the roller coaster 'Paddock Hill' to make sure you're awake:D

bradders 13-Jun-2011 22:01

Not sure may be worth a loom at what the MRO minitwins or streetfighter c with TGB were doing as I think both have been there already.

Re gearing, skids has a great theory I reckon I will be adopting: fast medium slow tracks. This is a fast one so 43 I reckon as Anglesey should have been a 44 but thd wind meant I could get the extra bit so just overrevved

So that's 45 at mallory and brands, 44 Anglesey and 43 snett. Done

Simps 13-Jun-2011 22:11

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Originally Posted by bradders
Not sure may be worth a loom at what the MRO minitwins or streetfighter c with TGB were doing as I think both have been there already.

Re gearing, skids has a great theory I reckon I will be adopting: fast medium slow tracks. This is a fast one so 43 I reckon as Anglesey should have been a 44 but thd wind meant I could get the extra bit so just overrevved

So that's 45 at mallory and brands, 44 Anglesey and 43 snett. Done



Thanks Bradders, I will dig into the box of spare sprockets and go with 2 more than whats on there and work back from there.

bradders 13-Jun-2011 22:12

Bemsee have raced there, slowest minitwin 2.26 and formula 400 were 2.20 thru to 3 mins plus. 2.30 I reckon....and A class 2.23

bradders 13-Jun-2011 22:14

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Originally Posted by 955SP
Thanks Bradders, I will dig into the box of spare sprockets and go with 2 more than whats on there and work back from there.



:lol: 2 less. If Anglesey was find and you were revving out up the hill then 1 more and 1 less I reckon would do it ;) but be warned; I know feck all

Cranker V2 13-Jun-2011 22:25

I must say I do like the new circuit at snetterton. Its fast, and flowing and gearing was very important on the DD bike, giving a variation of 3 seconds a lap over a combination of 3 different sprockets.

Anyways, see you all friday eve. I do hope its dry Friday, but who cares on Saturday/sunday. :cool:

skidlids 13-Jun-2011 22:32

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Originally Posted by 955SP
What about the first practice at Anglesey? Wasnt raining but the track was pretty wet from what I remember.


As was the Brands test day at the begining of the season a few weeks before the Brands round when most other classes were falling off while using Wets yet every DD bike stayed upright even with oil mixing with the wet in certain areas of the track.
To me it wasn't just about grip in the wet but more about feel / feedback, racing a 130bhp Fireblade in Streetstocks at a very wet Thruxton it was easy to break traction but the road tyres were so predictable it was fun, just as the Wet DD race at Assen was a few years ago when on the Diablos.

But I'm hoping for good weather as I just don't seem to be able to push the bike as hard as I once did and i'm certainly not getting the most from these tyres yet, hence quite a few bike mods since Anglesey as I try to get back to my 2005/6 setup that had me collecting Pots and front row starts in Class B and NG Minitwins

As for Lap times Hugh I've seen you breeze bast me as if I was stood still, so if you learn the track quick enough and get the bike setup right you should be right up there competeing for the lap record and with Snett being Neal's local track it would be nice to see him up there also. Then there are the other usual suspects such as Kev P, who has some lost ground to make up and that old codger Alan who's getting quicker all the time and has already tried the new circuit. So dispite the long circuit it could be close racing up the front of the Class B field

bradders 13-Jun-2011 22:32

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Originally Posted by Cranker V2
I must say I do like the new circuit at snetterton. Its fast, and flowing and gearing was very important on the DD bike, giving a variation of 3 seconds a lap over a combination of 3 different sprockets.

Anyways, see you all friday eve. I do hope its dry Friday, but who cares on Saturday/sunday. :cool:



Don't be shy....what gearing and laptimes predictions please ;)

Ghost 13-Jun-2011 22:34

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Originally Posted by Cranker V2
I must say I do like the new circuit at snetterton. Its fast, and flowing and gearing was very important on the DD bike, giving a variation of 3 seconds a lap over a combination of 3 different sprockets.

Anyways, see you all friday eve. I do hope its dry Friday, but who cares on Saturday/sunday. :cool:


Ahh Mr T. You have had a play already by the look of things. :cool:

bradders 13-Jun-2011 22:39

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Originally Posted by Ghost
Ahh Mr T. You have had a play already by the look of things. :cool:


Won't do him any good, he'll run out of puff :p

:lol:

Ghost 13-Jun-2011 22:45

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Originally Posted by bradders
Won't do him any good, he'll run out of puff :p

:lol:


I'm hoping a lot of others, including you, will also. :D

bradders 13-Jun-2011 23:01

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Originally Posted by Ghost
I'm hoping a lot of others, including you, will also. :D


That's the only thing I can assure you I won't do :D

Simps 13-Jun-2011 23:06

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Originally Posted by bradders
:lol: 2 less. If Anglesey was find and you were revving out up the hill then 1 more and 1 less I reckon would do it ;) but be warned; I know feck all



:puzzled: No I just thought I would be ultra careful and start with two more and work all the way back to 2 less! hahaha

Thanks for that, yes I think I mean 2 less!

Ghost 13-Jun-2011 23:14

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Originally Posted by 955SP
:puzzled: No I just thought I would be ultra careful and start with two more and work all the way back to 2 less! hahaha

Thanks for that, yes I think I mean 2 less!


Hugh when thinking of gearing just think push bike if its harder to pedal you change the sprocket to a larger on the rear or smaller on the front, to make it easier to pedal.
No more tips. :D

Simps 13-Jun-2011 23:47

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Originally Posted by Ghost
Hugh when thinking of gearing just think push bike if its harder to pedal you change the sprocket to a larger on the rear or smaller on the front, to make it easier to pedal.
No more tips. :D



Its funny that gearing isnt 2nd nature to me considering I cycle about 100km a week training for my first Triathlon end July.

Ghost 14-Jun-2011 05:52

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Originally Posted by 955SP
Its funny that gearing isnt 2nd nature to me considering I cycle about 100km a week training for my first Triathlon end July.


Wow well done, huge respect.p

Jolley 14-Jun-2011 07:52

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Originally Posted by Ghost
Oulton Park is just short of 2.7 miles Sam West was on a 2:04 this Snett is very nadjerry and 3 miles so I'm going to have a rough guess at 2:38. :eek:

Ok, I'll stop when I get to 2:38 ;)

The thing to remember is the B record on the old 2mile circuit is under 1m24s. I don't see another mile (which doesn't seem as tight as some of the 1mile tracks we go to) adding more than another minute. I personally think you will need to be under 2m30s.

Jolley 14-Jun-2011 08:09

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Originally Posted by skidlids
As for Lap times Hugh I've seen you breeze bast me as if I was stood still, so if you learn the track quick enough and get the bike setup right you should be right up there competeing for the lap record and with Snett being Neal's local track it would be nice to see him up there also. Then there are the other usual suspects such as Kev P, who has some lost ground to make up and that old codger Alan who's getting quicker all the time and has already tried the new circuit. So dispite the long circuit it could be close racing up the front of the Class B field

I didn't realize it was Neal's home track? I thought Brands was? He was good there last year though, and it is about time he bucked up his ideas! Alan was quick there last year, it is his home track, and is one of the few to have been there... So let's all follow him for a change.

I'm not racing this weekend. I'm just there for the craic! ;)

Simps 14-Jun-2011 09:54

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Originally Posted by Ghost
Wow well done, huge respect.p


Thanks for the support but I am not there yet! Distance is 1.5k swim (in the Thames :o ), 40k bike, 10k run. The Cycling is coming on well enough and have managed to improve my running from not being able to manage 2k in Jan to doing a half marathon last Saturday.

The 1.5km swim is a different story, so far I can only manage 16 lengths of the pool (400m) before I start struggling with my breathing and become exhausted. I am booked in for a couple of lessons which I hope will help me out because I figure it will be a lot harder in the Thames dodging beer cans and nappies!

badgerpilot 14-Jun-2011 10:02

Sprocket??? I thought that was the dog in Fraggle Rock!!

Is it the spikey round thing the metal drive belt goes round?

I've got a choice of 14 or 15 front with a 40 something on the back, will try both if I can be ar*ed swapping them between sessions.

That's assuming I go, mum's been taken into hospital and if I can get a refund I'll be ducking out of this one. :( If not I'll be there on fast return standby and possibly not with my head in the right frame of mind, mum's told me not to be a d*ck head an waste over £200. :o

badgerpilot 14-Jun-2011 10:05

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Originally Posted by 955SP
Thanks for the support but I am not there yet! Distance is 1.5k swim (in the Thames :o ), 40k bike, 10k run. The Cycling is coming on well enough and have managed to improve my running from not being able to manage 2k in Jan to doing a half marathon last Saturday.

The 1.5km swim is a different story, so far I can only manage 16 lengths of the pool (400m) before I start struggling with my breathing and become exhausted. I am booked in for a couple of lessons which I hope will help me out because I figure it will be a lot harder in the Thames dodging beer cans and nappies!


Ditto on the big respec dude but be careful in the Thames as it's getting cleaner nowadays. There could be a hungry stray Nobby Clark about! :eek:

Jolley 14-Jun-2011 10:33

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Originally Posted by 955SP
I am booked in for a couple of lessons which I hope will help me out because I figure it will be a lot harder in the Thames dodging beer cans and nappies!

From what I have heard it is being elbowed/thumped/dunked/grabbed by the other competitors which is hardest to deal with.

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Originally Posted by baconmaker72
That's assuming I go, mum's been taken into hospital and if I can get a refund I'll be ducking out of this one. :( If not I'll be there on fast return standby and possibly not with my head in the right frame of mind, mum's told me not to be a d*ck head an waste over £200. :o

good luck with whatever you decide to do. We will still be there to welcome you at Pembrey if you don't make Snett. Hope everything works out.

Cranker V2 14-Jun-2011 12:21

Scott,

you will be missed if you cant come on. And as Hugh says, a big welcome when we see you next. I hope all stays ok for you.


Snetterton time I am aiming for is a 2min 20ish lap.................

Jolley 14-Jun-2011 12:34

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Originally Posted by Cranker V2
Snetterton time I am aiming for is a 2min 20ish lap.................

Ambitious on a wet track!

Jolley 14-Jun-2011 12:38

My predictions from January....
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Originally Posted by Jolley
Class A 2m14.4s
Class B 2m19.4s

...it will be interesting to see I I'm anywhere near (if it is dry)!

bradders 14-Jun-2011 15:29

but a bloke Hugh's size can cover a mile in about 4 steps!! :lol:

reckon mid 1 20's if dry

Ghost 14-Jun-2011 18:06

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Originally Posted by bradders
but a bloke Hugh's size can cover a mile in about 4 steps!! :lol:

reckon mid 1 20's if dry


Mallory is 1.4 miles and a 1.04 is respectable. So with a 3 mile track and a tight hairpin and far more bends, it is certainly going to be well into the 2 mins bracket. IMHO. :D

Simps 14-Jun-2011 19:10

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Originally Posted by bradders
but a bloke Hugh's size can cover a mile in about 4 steps!! :lol:

reckon mid 1 20's if dry


Do you mean mid 2 20's or are you just feeling very fast right now?

bradders 14-Jun-2011 20:16

:lol: deliberate mistake 2 min of course ;)


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