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bradders 27-Oct-2011 22:08

where's the class A rules?
 
see B is up plus a draft of the new C - so what about A?

Gbyte666 27-Oct-2011 23:45

No Green Frames allowed. :lol:



Craig

bradders 28-Oct-2011 10:31

will be compulsory ;) :lol:

Ghost 28-Oct-2011 16:29

Crankcases just back from the shot blasters, so they should be a tad lighter. :D

bradders 28-Oct-2011 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost
Crankcases just back from the shot blasters, so they should be a tad lighter. :D


wouldn't jump ahead until final bits decided there Phil ;)

antonye 28-Oct-2011 17:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost
Crankcases just back from the shot blasters, so they should be a tad lighter. :D


You know that drilling holes in them would improve weight loss further...

Gbyte666 28-Oct-2011 18:39

Lol, the funny thing is in my first year of racing I would have taken that advice Antonye

Craig

Jolley 29-Oct-2011 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradders
see B is up plus a draft of the new C - so what about A?

Kev is waiting until he finishes his bike before finalising them! ;)

skidlids 30-Oct-2011 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolley
Kev is waiting until he finishes his bike before finalising them! ;)


My Bike is still just as it finished Oulton, ie still in the back of the van, although I now have a very Orange Alloy tank to try on it.

The Class A rule book was slightly delayed as a couple of suggestions were taken on board following the meeting at Oulton Park.

The Class A Tech Regs are now up in the same section as the Class B tech Regs

bradders 30-Oct-2011 13:35

suspect he meant Senna's.... ;)

like what Kev? Didn't think there were that many, with the key issues being tyres and wont be using wets of B class aren't...what else could there be other than a BHP and torq max??? That would be a step forward maybe...

at a loss to understand why a brand new set of rules can be done in weeks, yet a simple update of an existing one takes months :puzzled:

skidlids 30-Oct-2011 14:21

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Originally Posted by bradders

at a loss to understand why a brand new set of rules can be done in weeks, yet a simple update of an existing one takes months :puzzled:


The rules for the new Class 1C are a Draft (Note the first page) that could yet go several versions so making a mistake doesn't matter as much as its likely to be picked up and corrected in a later version, also the rules are more open to less worry about people reading things into them and less chance of a misinterpratation as well as the being aimed at people with more experience of racing,
I prefer to try and gt Class A and B right first time rather than have different versions floating about

As for a simple update, when allowing for mods to the subframe there are 4 different frames that can be used and all are different so all need to be looked at and see what measurement can cover all of the frames safely. Suprisingly this means getting out and measuring the different frames which takes a bit of time.

Plus dealing with the Phone calls, often a hour long, replying to emails, PMs and liasing with Hottrax all to do with DD, then people expect you to read all the posts and reply to them.

Plus having other things to do like work on a few of my own projects, including getting to grips with new Diagnostic upgrades I've purchased, sort out Dallas's Wiring, Camshafts for Matt Lawson, get out on my bike and try and make the most of the good weather we had in October (Yep selfish I know) go to bike nights, pick up Nev and run him over to Harv748 to collect the 916SP, do a bit of Scrutineering at Snetterton on Friday and Saturday and maybe if I get time I can have a look around the Web, see whats on Ebay and even watch a bit of TV, before thinking about next Sundays Oxon/Berks rideout.
I'm also getting hassled over the Prescott Bike Festival as they want a commitment, not an easy thing to do when all you have is a provisional race Calendar

Anybody would think the 2012 season started next week
Still at least the winter is almost upon us along with the shorter days so no doubt I will be less distracted by wanting to get out on the bike over the next few months

Cranker V2 30-Oct-2011 15:26

I am willing to redraft the Class 1c rules.;)

skidlids 30-Oct-2011 15:34

What and make them the same as one of the proposed Hottrax classes

Cranker V2 30-Oct-2011 16:04

No, just make them so bikes with mag wheels, or mag yokes or swinger are eligible as well as up the HP limit..................... :cool:

bradders 30-Oct-2011 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cranker V2
No, just make them so bikes with mag wheels, or mag yokes or swinger are eligible as well as up the HP limit..................... :cool:


I'll help you - add 848 allowable and we're in ;)

skidlids 30-Oct-2011 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cranker V2
No, just make them so bikes with mag wheels, or mag yokes or swinger are eligible as well as up the HP limit..................... :cool:


Well that little lot fits in with the Hottrax Superbike class so is already cater'd for

And how does Bradders think a 848 fits with a grid for bikes of at least Ten years old

Cranker V2 30-Oct-2011 21:10

I know Kev, will give it a run out in that.:)

bradders 30-Oct-2011 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
Well that little lot fits in with the Hottrax Superbike class so is already cater'd for

And how does Bradders think a 848 fits with a grid for bikes of at least Ten years old


thought the rules were still being drafted ;)

skidlids 31-Oct-2011 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradders
thought the rules were still being drafted ;)


But within certain Guide lines based on the Hottrax Classic Superbike and Supercup frame work, so essentially bikes that were about over 10 years ago and essentialy without up-to-date modifications

Cranker V2 31-Oct-2011 22:13

Those rules will do for me Kev. Short sweet and succinct :roll:

skidlids 31-Oct-2011 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cranker V2
Those rules will do for me Kev. Short sweet and succinct :roll:



Hottrax rules
Superbike - Almost anything goes from 10 years ago, even full on works bikes
Supercup - Near standard machines from that Era

Desmo Due Class 1C
Ducati only but Somewhere between the other two classes, so allowing for a lot of typical trackday mods from that Era

If i'm not mistaken the Supercup rules may prevent the use of such things as P4 Calipers as I can't recall them coming fitted as standard on Ducatis pre March 2002

bradders 31-Oct-2011 22:36

can you fit 696 forks to A class? Hugh did it on the B so must be ok on A isnt it? better still 848 ones which have lots of adjustment

Cranker V2 31-Oct-2011 22:40

How about these Braddrs.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-Hypermotard-796-forks-complete-top-bottom-yoke-/370552804532?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item5646a b14b4

skidlids 31-Oct-2011 22:40

696 Yes as they fit standard yokes although they are possibly abit on the short side

848 Forks No as they don't fit in standard unmodified yokes

bradders 31-Oct-2011 22:55

so key is fit std yokes

they arent adjustable mike - sure there will be some that are and will fit!

engine first anyway; gotta make it super fast first ;)

chris.p 01-Nov-2011 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
If i'm not mistaken the Supercup rules may prevent the use of such things as P4 Calipers as I can't recall them coming fitted as standard on Ducatis pre March 2002



I could be wrong, but I think the 748R 2001/2002 came with P4's as standard??


Chris:burn:

chris.p 01-Nov-2011 06:40

Just checked.

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/ducati_748_r_2001.php


2001/2002 748R came with P4's as standard.




Chris:burn:


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