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Hello again!

Onto the fork question now. I thought you had you use the stock non adjustable forks for DD. Seems you dont if I've read the rules right and you can use adjustable ones. If thats right what a good upgrade with minimal fuss of yet more fabrications!! ST 4, 900ss??:confused:

Simon, i've just been playing with forks today
The Monster 620 I bought came with non adjustable 750SSie forks (same as 620 Sport) these were removed this afternoon and replaced by a pair of ST4 forks straight swap basically apart from them being shorter, Same calipers, same spindle, same clip-ons, same mudguard etc. They will need to come out again for me to change the springs, oil and adjust the airgap.

And for good measure the forks I removed which were in a really good condition I swapped into my 750SSie removing the old forks that are showing there age and need the dust seals replacing, once thats done they will be added to my large pile of Class B bits as I almost have everything to build a complete Class B bike now

I wonder if anybody round here just out bid me on those ST4 forks on ebay

email subject: You've been outbid on eBay item: Ducati ST4 2001 fork legs (120808076289)

seems spjallen and me are keeping this forum going at the mo ;) :lol:

Who me? No sir, I wouldn't dare!!

Unless things have changed, you are only allowed adjustable forks in Class A, not Class B.... Skids will confirm to avoid confusion.

Quite right Ron, Simons on a Class A bike and has obviously just picked up on the Class A rules regarding forks

Yes that right. I was going down the route of sending them to maxton at a cost of around £400, but still leaving without any easy adjustment options, which seems a bit rubbish - hence a good trawl through the rules. How much should I be looking to pay for a good pair of adjustable forks?

thats the ridiculous thing SP - you can pick a set of 916 forks and yokes up cheaper than ST2!! More fit for purpose but you cant use them....

How do we ask for a rule change? You could make it only that range, ie Showa fitted to Ducati SBK range and even stipulate no radial brakes if needed (and that was a concern) or name the range of bikes they must come from

Season hasnt started yet...

any other brands fit - everyone knows Aprilia and Ducati are often inter changable, is there an Aprillia bike like ST2/4/monster?

I don't think its my place or right to ask for a rule change at this time of the year - the rules have been carefully constructed with lots of variables to consider. I'm just asking for advise on which forks work best.

I have asked Kev to consider and respond. Seems madness a set of ST4 or early ST2 (which are adj) are more expensive than 9** and in some cases the same price as 848!! Madness!!

Got the Pm and here's my answer

NO nd thats without considering any offset changes.

As you can't fit them in a SS type frame without Custom yokes then it can't be applied right across Class A
Originally forks weren't adjustable so those that had the money to spend with Maxton and the likes could take advantage of the rules as they were.

I opened it up to allow adjustable showa or Marzocchi forks from OEM Ducati that fit in the standard yokes, these include the following Monsters, STs and Supersports M900, M900ie M1000ie, S4 and S4R, 1000S2R then there are the ST2, ST3, ST4 and possiblty the ST4S, along with 900SS, 900SSie, 1000SS and possibly some of the sports classics,

So not the shortest of lists and when considering changing Class A to adjustable forks these sort of things were considered

Also the 43mm later forks are the same diameter tube as the superbikes so I suspect its possible to use parts from the superbike forks in the non adjustable forks

I currently have a set of 748 forks on ebay at £120, yet I've just paid the same for a set of ST4 forks for the M620 and could do with another set for my second 620SS. So I could try swapping bits about but as I've never had a issue sourcing forks that comply with the rules I'll just sell one set and buy another

Closing date for suggested changes the rules was November 5th as per the 2011 rule book, but a week before that there were calls for the issue of the Class A rule book. Now there are calls for more changes
As usual in the off season there are a small few that want the rules changed to suit them where as the majority accept the rules as they are and get on and build their bikes accordingly.

fair enough, but these things do come up in closed season - its only November - and if you think back the reason I asked where A rules were was because B and the new C1 were drafted but not A which seemed odd...

seems far more complicated than simply changing yokes and forks then, and well done on the ST forks - most on Ebay are £200 and north for shitty old pitted ones!!

and what use is rule books if you cant chuck em out the window occasionally ;)

There is a set of ST forks on Ebay at the moment, bidding is currently at £80
Kev P picked up a set of 900SSie or possibly 1000SS/DS ones a couple of weeks ago for £100.
The ones I bought came off Ebay, listed by Steve Klee so I met up with him last Wednesday and saved on the postage

Just a thought, but it seemed to me that while we were on the Pirellis, especially the year on the Rossos, fiddling with suspension was important to get the best out of the tyres.

Last year with the stickier Dunlops, I reckon the properly set up pair of non-adjustable forks from 2009 would have been as good as the adjustable ones I was using.

But then I'm a bit of novice when it comes to forks.......

I and dozens of others are probably watching that pair ;)

And like most things in life, its who not what you know and as much right place right time as anything... I dont even have my bike yet :eek: :lol:

I'll probably just get them resprung for me anyway, as I said before; too much to worry about with gearing never mind suspension

Hugh used the same gearing everywhere and it didn't seem to slow him down.

but I'd expect with a super light weight bike and pilot, making decent power, the gearing is less important....who knows...I'm probably talking bollix as normal

His bike wasn't as light as everyone assumed. I'm pretty sure it was over 160kg (so a good 10kg more than some! ;) ), and Hugh isn't exactly a lightweight due to his height...

I'd be amazed if it was, unless those cans added so much, as it was probably the best bike in the paddock when he bought it; light, powerful and brilliantly put together by one of the best Ducati guys out there

Quite a few on eBay

Item number: 170727134685

Item number: 170717848064 1000ds

Item number: 200677861559 900ss

ha ha just looking at the same!! Have noticed the 900ss ones seem to be 40mm spaced brakes, and not all ST and bigger Monster/SS engined machines had asj forks

These are what you need. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-748...em4ab0f dcf0f

And before you say they won't fit! all you need to do is change the top stanchions & preload adjusters for SS & you would have a great pair of forks

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3207940164... 4.m1423.l2648

These are what I run in my 800 monster & they are great.

Sounds lovely. Wheel would fit ok?

and those ST4 ones on ebay are at £135 with reserve not met

Yes

i'm suprised the Pieman hasn't snapped them up for his 996 that he's racing in Supercup

£160 and reserve wasn't met. Seems Ducati = pay anything in many peoples eyes still!!!

nice work around the rules there too.

Well it's all sorted now. I bought a set of 748 forks and had them modified professionally ( thank you - top man ) so they would fit in my standard yokes and therefore remain within the rules. Everything fits great, clip ons, brake calipers and spindles. Thanks to everyone that had an input on this thread.

cool

my ST2 ones were very greasy but came up looking new! Looks like I just bought the forks & calipers off the shelf...shiny :)