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dunlop0_1 23-Feb-2012 20:04

2012 Champions, my money's on...
 
Class A

Andy Challis or Matt Lawson

Class B

Brummy Dave or Paul Pullen

Providing they enter and finish all the races.

but good luck to all as racing can be a funny old thing so you never know what might happen.

Last minute rider may turn up yet. ;)

ells 23-Feb-2012 22:35

Class A
Andy Challis or Matt Lawson

Class B
Brummy Dave ended on form or could go to anyone really

Think we will know who's up for it after Brands. Hope we have a good and exciting end to the season.

Mark

bradders 23-Feb-2012 22:45

don't write people off if they don't do it at Brands, think some of the new entrants may have a say or two as well

skidlids 23-Feb-2012 23:05

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Originally Posted by bradders
don't write people off if they don't do it at Brands,


Good advice, Ghost had two non scoring rides at Brands Last year and look where he ended the season

bradders 23-Feb-2012 23:15

I expect Senna to do great at Brands, he likes it there and always goes well. As does Awesome. Larry the Matt may be a little rusty to start with too...altho no dropped rounds means gotta be on it from the off!

dunlop0_1 24-Feb-2012 06:37

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Originally Posted by bradders
I expect Senna to do great at Brands, he likes it there and always goes well. As does Awesome. Larry the Matt may be a little rusty to start with too...altho no dropped rounds means gotta be on it from the off!


I think the non drop rounds could be the turning point this year. You can't afford to crash but want to win, not an easy combination. I know :lol:

If you are lucky enough to win then lap and race records start to raise there head making it even more risky, but it does make for excellent racing. :D

ells 24-Feb-2012 08:04

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Originally Posted by skidlids
Good advice, Ghost had two non scoring rides at Brands Last year and look where he ended the season


We knew Ghostie was in with a shout before he turned up at Brands. Theres a few other people that may / may not appear as contenders.

Cant wait
:)

dunlop0_1 24-Feb-2012 08:38

I would also expect to see some of last years riders pick up some silverware for the first time and the odd suprise winner. :D

Jolley 24-Feb-2012 14:45

I keep going on about this, but dropped rounds barely makes any difference to anything in any year. Last year for example:

Class A: only Andy Challis and Kev E dropped any points, and it made no difference to any positions
Class B: only Alan and Paul P lost any points from dropped races, and the only difference would have been Alan equal on points to Kev P, but Kev would still have placed above Alan on other results, so no change.

The only possible difference it can make is if someone gets so paranoid about not finishing it slows them down... But winning is almost more important than consistency regardless. I managed to finish second with 4 non-starts/finishes just by virtue of the number of wins. Because of the points difference, winning is almost more important than not finishing the odd race (in my opinion).

Oh, and my tips would be Awesome and Brummy Dave. But who really knows until the final checkered flag.

Jolley 24-Feb-2012 14:47

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Originally Posted by dunlop0_1
I would also expect to see some of last years riders pick up some silverware for the first time and the odd suprise winner. :D

Yep. Just look at Hugh/Bradders last year... Plus, the year before their championship years, neither Phil or Matt Larrett had won a race in the previous season (I think).... So anything could happen.

Sorted 24-Feb-2012 15:59

Ahh but if there were not compulsory drops I could have gone past Kev P because I wouldn't have sat out the final race at Oulton and probably picked up a few extra points, even if I cruised round like Hugh did Lol :-)

But hey ho

bradders 24-Feb-2012 17:06

I would have done Oulton too and been trying harder at Catsle Doom rather than sitting back and being courteous if all rounds counted....wouldnt have won the title but may have affected who did

Bionicle 24-Feb-2012 22:20

My thoughts are anyone who steps up to the mark from trackdays to racing is a winner for me its not the winning but the taking part and having fun, some of the best people i have ever met have been in the DD paddock, riders/spectatators and organisers so as long as i am enjoying it it dont bother me if i come first or last, not saying a win or even a third place would not be welcome but the main thing is getting out there, doing it and going home ready to do it again.

Jolley 25-Feb-2012 09:38

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Originally Posted by bradders
I would have done Oulton too and been trying harder at Catsle Doom rather than sitting back and being courteous if all rounds counted....wouldnt have won the title but may have affected who did

... and Hugh would have tried harder, and Kev would have been more careful, and I would have pottered round for my 4 points to win the championship.... but these things didn't happen, so it is pointless talking about them. The bottom line is that for the races people scored points in, dropping points or not made no difference as with just about every other year.... so I don't think anyone should be concerned of the effect.

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Originally Posted by Bionicle
My thoughts are anyone who steps up to the mark from trackdays to racing is a winner for me its not the winning but the taking part and having fun, some of the best people i have ever met have been in the DD paddock, riders/spectatators and organisers so as long as i am enjoying it it dont bother me if i come first or last, not saying a win or even a third place would not be welcome but the main thing is getting out there, doing it and going home ready to do it again.

You were racing with me in the second race at Cadwell, and I am sure you were chasing me at Pembrey. You have plenty of speed, and you could be the Phil/Matt for this years Championship ;)

chris.p 25-Feb-2012 11:11

[quote=Bionicle] so as long as i am enjoying it it dont bother me if i come first or last, not saying a win or even a third place would not be welcome QUOTE]


Well it bothers me ;)


Chris:burn:

Bionicle 25-Feb-2012 15:46

[quote=chris.p]
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Originally Posted by Bionicle
so as long as i am enjoying it it dont bother me if i come first or last, not saying a win or even a third place would not be welcome QUOTE]


Well it bothers me ;)


Chris:burn:



Well you ride the bike then :)

bradders 25-Feb-2012 15:55

the point is all races will make a difference I think. Last year maybe not as most the front runners had the same kinda results & dnf. Have a look at the previous year and I *think* Matt L would have been champ with 1 or not 2 rounds to go

but agree - totally irrelevant - flag drops bullshit stops n all that :)

which is in 2 weeks ;) :D

Jolley 25-Feb-2012 17:16

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Originally Posted by bradders
the point is all races will make a difference I think. Last year maybe not as most the front runners had the same kinda results & dnf. Have a look at the previous year and I *think* Matt L would have been champ with 1 or not 2 rounds to go

but my point is all races made a difference last year. In fact, they mattered more because so many were non-results... So every result mattered, just like it will this year. I don't think anyone will race any differently, and I don't think it will make any difference to the results (like it can be proved it hasn't from past years). Matt may have won a round earlier... But he would still have won.

Jolley 25-Feb-2012 17:17

[quote=Bionicle]
Quote:

Originally Posted by chris.p


Well you ride the bike then :)

I'll ride it! ;)

skidlids 25-Feb-2012 17:42

With 23 races this year there is probably less chance of one bad race having much effect, but one bad meeting with 3 DNF/DNS results and thats a lot of points you could be missing out on

bradders 25-Feb-2012 18:22

TBH I'm just hoping last year wasnt a fluke - I fear it was - and I can stil ride a bike at a good pace. After that, anything is a bonus

Reckon A could be a bit like B last year, with several winning different races but Awesome & Angry have to be favourites by a considerable way, then Dallas if its stays dry all year and who knows about Simon and some of the new ones.

B could be really open, with Brummie & Paul probably obvious as should do well from last year as all those ahead have moved up. Reckon Scott could be a good outside bet but only if he gets his bike faster - its way off the pace of those two, then there are a few newbies like teh geezer from Rapido who's been racing minibikes for a while and doing well and Spence who I think could take some silverware if he keeps the right way up ;)

With the Dentist having a year under his belt, Phil could easily leap from his pace to mine last year....and I hope he does and will be doing whatever I can to help him do it....its way open

I'd suggest if you know someone who wants to watch good racing, tell em to turn off Moto GP and head of to a Hottrax event and watch us! :biaggi:

kenoir 26-Feb-2012 16:56

If Jules was doing every round, my money would be on him for class B champ.

You only need to ask Ghost how close he came to winning at Oulton. He's getting steadily quicker.

mat2hew 06-Mar-2012 10:24

and my bikes not working yet :(

Spjallen 06-Mar-2012 11:16

I know about me! I'lll be just steady away for he first couple and bed into the series - no crazy antics - just yet!

Chaz 06-Mar-2012 19:52

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Originally Posted by mat2hew
and my bikes not working yet :(



Why not?

skidlids 06-Mar-2012 21:44

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Originally Posted by Chaz
Why not?


I was just about to post the exact same question, good job I read to the end of the page

Buy Hey lets ask it again any way

WHY NOT
Tell the team manager to get on the case

numbskull 06-Mar-2012 21:52

Idon't think my management skills are up to much!

dunlop0_1 07-Mar-2012 05:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mat2hew
and my bikes not working yet :(


It didn't work last year neither. :lol: ;)

Bionicle 07-Mar-2012 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunlop0_1
It didn't work last year neither. :lol: ;)


Ouch thats Low :)

dunlop0_1 07-Mar-2012 11:34

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Originally Posted by Bionicle
Ouch thats Low :)


Yeah but he loves me. :D


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