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996VINCE 19-Mar-2012 15:00

Completely dead!
 
:mad: Riding back home after attending the Royal Wootton Bassett Ride of Respect, the 996 suddenly lost all power and died; thought of past problems with the ignition/fuel pump relay so tried swapping the spare I carry, to no avail.
Had to get a friend to rescue me with his trailer, and tried replacing all the relays and fuses, but nothing.
Thought of the dreaded ecu faults, hope not!! (Also, the fuel pump does not pressurise when the ignition is switched on and the starter button is dead)
Any thoughts would be very welcome, cheers.

Cranker V2 19-Mar-2012 16:31

Battery dead, fuse(s) blown, earth fault, ignition switch fault............ Try a bit od simple fault fining with a multimeter after inspecting fuses, loose connections etc. Does the bike have an alarm? sometimes they disable the whole bike.

skidlids 19-Mar-2012 18:19

Gbyte666 had a similar issue on one of our rideouts last year, his 996 just left him dead at the side of the road. I traced the problem to the The fuel sender connections, that take the 12 volts into the the tank to power the pump. Everything else worked OK just no power onto the pump.

Manga 19-Mar-2012 21:50

This happened to me last year due to Meta 357T playing up.
Is your bike fitted with one?

996VINCE 20-Mar-2012 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manga
This happened to me last year due to Meta 357T playing up.
Is your bike fitted with one?

Yes, exactly that model.
How did you rectify it?
Cheers.:confused:

Manga 20-Mar-2012 20:06

I'll have to tell you on a PM - or kill you afterwards!
Send me a PM and I'll respond.

996VINCE 21-Mar-2012 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manga
I'll have to tell you on a PM - or kill you afterwards!
Send me a PM and I'll respond.

Hi mate, I've sent you a PM.

Manga 21-Mar-2012 12:23

Reply sent but if your bike is not cranking then my answer wont really help.

If its just the pump then I can help.

jacknash 22-Mar-2012 19:30

multimeter on the fuse box. I believe the top fuse should have 12v perm live.

has sidestand switch been checked. if disconnected the plug is located high up on the LH trellis close to the clutch hose.

both pins should be connected for it to work.

nelly 23-Mar-2012 18:37

Reg/rec gone AWOL and battery fully drained would be my guess.

996VINCE 03-Apr-2012 15:20

Fingers crossed!!
 
:confused: Well it's in for repair now to be worked on next Tuesday, after trying all the obvious.
So I've got everything crossed in anticpation!:puzzled:

996VINCE 16-Apr-2012 14:47

Phew
 
:rolleye: Well after my repair guy looking at it for a week, it actually fired up only to stop in the same original manner. He is inclined to think that it's a combo of corroded wiring and dodgy alarm, (Meta 357T) so I asked him to remove it, but he says it's not as easy as that due to were it may have been channeled into. I now have to be patient and wait until he has time to finish the job. (What with everyone wanting their bike ready for summer and George Whites closing)
Ah well, at least it's less expensive than replacing an ecu!!

antonye 16-Apr-2012 16:35

Argh! If only you'd have said Meta 357T in the first place I would have said "YES! That happened to me too!!" ;)

Mine packed in and left me stranded unable to start the bike. It looked like it was working, but just didn't allow the bike to start. There are plenty of reports of the boards on these going AWOL due to water damage/ingress. After figuring it out, the mech bridged it rather than cut out. It's still there, it just doesn't do anything any more!

Ray 16-Apr-2012 19:34

Hmmm, had a similar problem with my 996 bip years ago. It cut dead a few times. Electrics apparently completely dead waggled the main battery leads and it came back to life or maybe that was just a coincidence.

It had a meta alarm system on it.

It did it a few times over a couple of months then fixed itself, was fine for the next year or two 'til I sold it.


Ray.

996VINCE 18-Apr-2012 04:47

Thanks for the input guys, hopefully I'll get her back soon before the better weather starts. ;)

996VINCE 14-May-2012 18:37

:roll: At last it's back after 4 weeks!

kellybuilders@bigpond.com 09-Jun-2012 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by 996VINCE
:mad: Riding back home after attending the Royal Wootton Bassett Ride of Respect, the 996 suddenly lost all power and died; thought of past problems with the ignition/fuel pump relay so tried swapping the spare I carry, to no avail.
Had to get a friend to rescue me with his trailer, and tried replacing all the relays and fuses, but nothing.
Thought of the dreaded ecu faults, hope not!! (Also, the fuel pump does not pressurise when the ignition is switched on and the starter button is dead)
Any thoughts would be very welcome, cheers.


Best thing to do is swap your ecu over with one that is working.That will immediatly tell you if its a computer problem.If the bike runs with another computer in it then try swapping the eprom. If the bike does not start again then the eprom chip has problems and its not the computer. There are dioades in the p8 and 1.6 ecu that get affected by heat transfere from the pipes. The one to test on the board is a ca3262a.(inverting power driver). Costs about 50 cents. A bit cheaper than a new computer eh. good luck.
ned. (996 SPS that cost me a lot of time to figure out the same problem that you have had .)
ps. If you r stuck on the roadside and the relay under the seat that runs the fuel pump will not fire up you can hot wire between 2 circuits at the feed in end on your computer using a piece of wire. Fuel pump will fire up and home u go ! if you want more details on this let me know. Very easy to do.
ned.

Stealth 16-Jun-2012 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by 996VINCE
Yes, exactly that model.
How did you rectify it?
Cheers.:confused:


I had the same alarm/immobiliser on my 998 and eventually removed the whole system as it became so unreliable. Worst moment was going through the gooseneck at Cadwell and it caused a power drop. Only lasted a second (probably less) but near enough had me going off the track.

Now replaced by a Tracker and no further problems.


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