Genuine?
 

A little help here - in anyone's estimated expert opinion - is this genuine?!?!?!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ayphotohosting

Paul

Scrub that I've found an earlier post....

:frog::frog:

So much wrong, where to start?? What's most worrying is that the guy has obviously spent ages cultivating his rating up to the magic 10 (when you get yer first star) with products for 99p, then tries to sell something for £4.5k.....

The copy's definitely knoicked from another add, and the pics don't match.

A poor attempt, must try harder. D-

:)

How do you mean the pics don't match? Look fine to me, except he's got stickers which aren't the same on either side! A Ferrari logo on one side and a Shell on the other!

The bike looks correct for a 916SPS and it is 996cc as described.

What do you think is wrong?

I looked at the Techcafe on Ducati site and it states that the forks are Ohlins on the 916SPS - on the Website he says they are Showa up front - could have had a smash I suppose?? Also, and according to other DSC'ers, it should have a plate on the yoke.

He does supply 'a' phone number which is kind of unusual for a scammer and he doesn't do the dodgy escrow trick either.

The jury is still out - I'm not sure, I'll probably buzz him - Any definitive Q's I could ask him / her?

Paul:puzzled:

[Edited on 29-7-2004 by fatduke11111]

Would you consider parting with more than £4,500 without seeing it and riding it first?

I would say that looks genuine.

Tell us what you think is wrong with it Ali.

916SPS comes with showa front forks,ohlins came on the 2000 spec 996SPS!!

So what else is wrong? Looks a little cheap,it may be a "bargin"!!

I'm eating my words here.... So used to seeing people with v.dodgy histories selling bikes at well below book price that I instantly jump into my SuperCynic cape.:)

I, too, thought SPSs only came with Ohlins. I also thought they had carbon termis on as standard, but should remember that they've still got to be road legal to be registered... arse.

Add that to the dodgy stickers and his last purchase of a tv for 99p and it all sounded liek one of these groups that sell stuff to each other to boost ratings then flog something big for a fortune.

I stand, humbly, corrected....

Must try harder, E+. ;)

ali

added: also thought they had 5-spoke marchinesis, but was that the 955??

[Edited on 29-7-2004 by ali]

Don't forget the 916SPS was a very early bike in the line of specials - certainly nothing like a Foggy rep or the 996SPS.

I agree though that it's always better to be very careful and go and look first before bidding - who would honestly buy a second-hand bike just from a few pics in a private sale? Not many I hope!

The Foggy reps were a higher spec 916 sps and were called a 916 sps - though they had a 996 engine and a wider frame for the new airbox(I think - Baylissboy will confirm):)

[Edited on 29-7-2004 by STEVE M]

A couple of points:

1/No, I wouldn't part with cash without seeing it first, but then again I don't want to go to Taunton ('specially in Holiday season) - if it's a bit pikey.

2/ In the techcafe artical it states that they are Ohlins - must be a misprint?!?!?!

http://www.ducati.com/bikes/techcafe...alue=technical

....select the 916 SPS Technical Specification at the bottom of the page.

3/ Sometimes you do get a bargain....

Still none the wiser..

Paul

[Edited on 29-7-2004 by fatduke11111]

Looks fairly genuine only with those fairings it is not a 98 model as they only had a small Ducati decal on the side.

Also the pipes that are in the photo look like 45mm mid section with the step with baffles in although difficult to tell from those pictures

Why not try and get a frame number and get it checked?

Ps 955's never had five spokes first ones fitted standard were 996SPS 1999 (real Marchesinis not Brembo)

I put the reg no into this RAC check here and got a strange reply???

Cheer David...

A scooter Combination? - Huh? Could be a personalised plate but I doubt it!

Steer Clear now I guess...

Cheers

Paul

But the colour was right:roll:

STEVE M

You are quite correct (for once),916SPS 996 engine,ohlins rear shock,ohlins steering damper,showa forks,three spoke wheels,carbon air box etc, Foggy rep 916SPS 996 engine,ohlins rear shock,ohlins steering damper,showa forks,five spoke (black) wheels,modified frame(a allow for larger air box),special engine cases,carbon air box etc!!
The bike in the advert looks like a "97" 916SPS to me!!

Paul:-

We always know Red is right!

Cheers

Paul;)

Did he really go from Taunton to Cambridge to pick up the TV or did he pay the extra £40+ for delivery I wonder!!

Has any one rung him?

What, phoned him to find out if he's picked his tv up yet?

:lol:

I put the reg into our vrm database,its comes up as a import,996cc and red,
Frame no ZDMH100AAUB000891 and eng no ZDM996W4000972.

Jon

He did mention that he exported and re-imported it. I've sent him a couple of mails and he hasn't responded to them yet.

I might well give him a buzz later - see if they tally.

Cheers Jon

Paul

To put us all out of our misery I called they guy up. He sounds as straight-up as you could get.

Said it was an import, then exported to middle-east with 0 km on, then re-imported and returned to road legal.

Confirmed the engine & frame numbers, welcomed visitors, and was definite that it'd never been down on either side.

Which makes it something of a bargain assuming it's mechanically sound. Cheapest I can find elsewhere is £6.3k.

Good luck.

Ali

It may be worth a trip down there...

cheers

Paul

Today...?!?!?!?!?
 

So 'ere I go, up early to go take a look at this bike - 916sps in Devon.

Leave at 7:30am, drive to Taunton through all of the holiday traffic - taking detour after detour (me missus doing some serious navigating around M5) get there at 11:50 ('bout 9 mins before the Ebay auction end time) - look over the bike and details - It WAS genuine a real stunner - immaculate!!! about 4.5k miles, all the bits - over £15k new he said - Gotta get it.

The guy lends me his PC to log on...it's via dial-up (sorry geezer used to Broadband) and it's a slow link.... sitting their waiting for the login screen to come up - 2 mins to go...come on....come on.. I''m saying in me head this is a great opportunity (only if the soddin' screen refreshes)... It comes up..bang.... current Bid £4,850 - jeez methinks whack in £5,287 (random number thought of on spur of the moment)...you've got just over a minute - quick your only chance.......

Go out onto the patio and the guy's missus brings out a lovely cup of coffee...still biting my nails - shall I go back and just check hmmm........?

Go back into his house, sit at the PC, refresh the screen - ..........bugger....... gone to some git for just over £5.3k.

Gutted.

Whoever got it - has a true bargain. I tried to see if he would take the same price- but fair due's the guy was pretty straight and said the deal is a deal - still I gave him 'me contact details just in case.

Took a few light years this side of the millenium to get home, traffic on the A303 - bad, on the M3 - better (M25 junction bloody awful), pulled off to go through Hampton to A3 - and some pillock desides to have an accident - road is closed and poured back passed Chessington to the M25 and home.

Still, convinced my missus to have a go at riding a bike on the way back so not all bad! (she couldn't ride a pushbike too good - so I'm not over optimistic).

I'll continue on the lookout for a nice bike - just have to wait until the right one comes along.

Paul