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fatduke11111 09-Aug-2004 22:12

Jumping ship?
 
I've been thinking about a having a refresh on the bike front and I think I've kind of narrowed it down to a couple of second-hand options..

1/ a 996BP

2/ Aprilia Tuono 1000

disparate or what!!!

The 996 would be really great - but it would look like something lodged in my crack.

The Aprilia is...well...an Aprilia....

I can't afford a 749/999's or an S4R as I want something a bit more pokey and a change so the ST4s is out and a 748 has the same appeal as far as rectal furniture is concerned as the 996.

So it looks like I may be switching to the dark side and going for the other side of Italy.

or is a numptystrada pokey enough?

:puzzled::puzzled:

[Edited on 9-8-2004 by fatduke11111]

Loz 09-Aug-2004 22:23

Get a Futura - you'll upset everyone equally! Baggsies I get a go, though!

Dumptystrada - approx 81bhp, 130mph tops, similar torque to a 749 ... unless the looks and ride knock your socks off, I don't think it will do it for you; but you won't know 'til you try!

What about a 1000DS?

Redsps 09-Aug-2004 22:30

why not try something a bit older instead of newer paul.

851/888 Strada or SP's they are making a real big comeback now, more comfy than 748/9 916 etc, get the right spec bike and they really fly, and they also stand out from the normal 7xx and 9xx bikes.

missed a good day yesterday mate.
cheers
robin

fatduke11111 09-Aug-2004 22:31

Loz:-

The 1000DS Got the same engine as the MS doesn't it?

The ST4 has around 105 - 107bhp depends what you read so it has a bit more power than the 1000DS...

Dunno - I like the idea of the looney Aprilia though....

TP 09-Aug-2004 22:32

What do you mean by the 1000DS Loz?

The 1000cc Dual Spark engine is in the Multistrada, the Monster 1000 and the 1000SS ... also in the Paul Smart 1000 and the other Sport Classics (although the specs haven't been finalised apparently ...)

psychlist 09-Aug-2004 22:33

ST4S if you really need that extra poke.

Magimixer if you want a really capable fun bike, dunno if they're gonna put the 4-valve lump in the strada chassis yet tho :eureka:

fatduke11111 09-Aug-2004 22:35

Robin:-

I missed you by 10 minutes on the Hog's back, her 'who-must-be-obeyed' had me over-running, anyway I went for a blast down the A31 and around the Petersfield area A272 - I think - some good twisty's there (only been to Popham once) - couldn't remember how to get there, and like a numb nuts didn't write it down beforehand - looks like you guys had a good time.

Passed an 888 as well yesterday - sounded nice - that may be an option - but aren't they rarer than rockin-horse-****e? (well a good one anyway).

Paul

fatduke11111 09-Aug-2004 22:41

Mr Paul-Psychlist-type-person wot's a 'Magimixer'?

Trouble they've put that bloody 3 valve engine in everything!!!! Less power...and power is eveyfink'...

Loz 09-Aug-2004 22:44

Quote:

Originally posted by tp-996
What do you mean by the 1000DS Loz?

The 1000cc Dual Spark engine is in the Multistrada, the Monster 1000 and the 1000SS ... also in the Paul Smart 1000 and the other Sport Classics (although the specs haven't been finalised apparently ...)

Sorry, meant the SS! Must stop posting now ... Stella induced errors are creeping in! :rodent:

TP 09-Aug-2004 22:46

Quote:

Originally posted by fatduke11111
Mr Paul-Psychlist-type-person wot's a 'Magimixer'?

Trouble they've put that bloody 3 valve engine in everything!!!! Less power...and power is eveyfink'...

I may be able to interpret .... Magimixer = Multistrada

3 valve engine is only in the ST3 - the 1000DS is still a 2 valver (sorry if I've read that wrong ..)

Who has been drooling all over the catalogs then - not me :o

Must have been the letter I got from Ducati yesterday congratulating me for my reservation of the Paul Smart 1000 ... :D :D :D

psychlist 09-Aug-2004 22:48

Magimixer, sorry numptystroodle, er multistroodle, sorry no numptystrada, oh you get the idea now Paul.
It's got the 1000 twin spark lump and handles like no other Duke, it really is amazing, try it you may be surprised! Kev (Senna) had a lovely black one mit Termi's at Popham yesterday, oodles of kit available for em too if you want a mile muncher!
Go on Paul, try one for size, you know you want to :devil:
Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on! Go on!

TP 09-Aug-2004 22:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Loz

Sorry, meant the SS! Must stop posting now ... Stella induced errors are creeping in! :rodent:

Ahhh .. all is forgiven ... just on my second bottle of white now ;)

TP 09-Aug-2004 22:49

Who said I'm just trying to add more posts to get over the next hump?

TP 09-Aug-2004 22:49

Thats just bloody ridiculous!

TP 09-Aug-2004 22:49

Preposterous!!

I won't have any of it!

TP 09-Aug-2004 22:49

:frog:

Loz 09-Aug-2004 22:52

Quote:

Originally posted by fatduke11111
Loz:-

The 1000DS Got the same engine as the MS doesn't it?


That's right.

Quote:

The ST4 has around 105 - 107bhp depends what you read so it has a bit more power than the 1000DS...

Dunno - I like the idea of the looney Aprilia though....

I was basing my suggestion on the power of your ST2 - if you want around 100bhp or more, you gots to go the ST3/ST4S route (in view of your comments on the 996BP!). Or hang tough 'til next year, maybe an affordable 749/999 will turn up. That'd be best :)
You won't be happy with a 'Prilia, mate! :D

fatduke11111 09-Aug-2004 23:02

Loz - I've got an ST4 (detuned, 4-valve 916) - I even looked at a 955 conversion, I think I'm just a bit bored with it - fancy a change.

Paul (Mr MagiMixer) - I might well do, persuade some chappie at DLS to let me have a go on one - I think I just fancy somefink' wiv a bit more power.....

The 916/ 996/ 998 is such a beautiful bike It's one that I've always wanted to own but I can't see myself commuting on it - seeing as some bugger today lifted the little red led housing for the alarm - Jeez why do that eh? I'd be forever looking over my shoulder....

Loz 09-Aug-2004 23:05

Quote:

Originally posted by fatduke11111
Loz - I've got an ST4 (detuned, 4-valve 916) - I even looked at a 955 conversion, I think I'm just a bit bored with it - fancy a change.

Sorry Paul - why did I think you had an ST2?
Never mind. Put a fork in me, I'm done. :puzzled: :)

TP 09-Aug-2004 23:06

Quote:

Originally posted by fatduke11111
The 916/ 996/ 998 is such a beautiful bike It's one that I've always wanted to own but I can't see myself commuting on it - seeing as some bugger today lifted the little red led housing for the alarm - Jeez why do that eh? I'd be forever looking over my shoulder....

I commute on my 996 (when I can ride it - damn shoulder) but to be honest I have 'secure' car parks at all three offices that I need to work at, including in the city in Bank.

Otherwise it's fine :D

Scottch 09-Aug-2004 23:20

Quote:

Originally posted by fatduke11111The 916/ 996/ 998 is such a beautiful bike It's one that I've always wanted to own

Sounds like the decision is made then buddy - otherwise you'll be kicking yourself in the ar$e forever.

I've owned 3 bikes of that ilk and I bet I'm a good bit larger than you. Besides, the suspension is so hard because it was designed for proper sized men ;)

Get on with it, you're only here once so buy what you want.

Cheers!

Scott

Monty 10-Aug-2004 00:34

"I bet I'm a good bit larger than you"-I have never met you Fatduke, but I DO know Scotty and he is bigger than your average bear Boo Boo.:lol:, and he's just bought a 999R!
Mind you in my humble opinion it's going to look like a mini moto and get wedged up his bum..............how many cows did Graham say he would have to slaughter to make your new suit Scott???:lol::lol::lol:

John

fatduke11111 10-Aug-2004 00:48

Monty - I simply can't afford one of those (749/999) outside my price range.....and therein lies the prob.

I'm on a diet though (as I need to get into my leathers for the trackday) - for the rest of this month and the days leading up to te trackday I will be mostly eating......nothing. I might even become 'Not-quite-so-fatduke11111'

It could be that I may fit a 996 - Christ, that is committment I sound like a 5 year old....

;);)

skidlids 10-Aug-2004 01:08

sonds like Testastretta Multistrada would fit the bill, if only they made one

yellow916 10-Aug-2004 01:46

Paul

As Red sps says, what about an earlier bike, like an 851 SP3. They are a bit like the proverbial, but it so happens I have a minter (really) that might be available. Way faster than my 916 Bip, and probably than a 996 as well (not sure about a 996S). Handles better (Ohlins both ends) and stops better (fully floating front discs) as well.

Drop me a U2U if you want some pictures/more details.

Andrew

webbyc 10-Aug-2004 08:05

Paul - have you adjusted the chain yet, that could be slowing you down still!!!!:lol:

Scottch 10-Aug-2004 09:09

Monty,

It wasn't a case of how many cows, more like whens the next foot and mouth scare?? :lol:

Paul - whatever you do fancy, go and try it! Unlike popular opinion, I find my 999 less comfortable than my 996 was.

And even if it does look like a minimoto wedged up your bum, who cares? That's other peoples problems. Surely you won't let that sway you from owning the most beautiful motorcycle ever produced, IMO.

Cheers!

Scott

yeti 10-Aug-2004 09:42

FWIW, having just sold the 996, am very seriously thinking about chopping in my trsuty old ST2 for a Numptystrada. Haven't ridden one yet, so goona have to do that first, but everyone I've spoken to reckons they are a bit tasty - as far as they go, cos let's face it they are never gonna outhandle a 9xx, but are probably better than the ST. Will let you know how I get on - probably with the assistance of a step ladder looking at the height of the bloody thing........... :rolleye:

Twinfan 10-Aug-2004 09:48

The Tuono motor is stunning, but the handling is quite top heavy and takes some getting used to. I had an RSV for 3 years and couldn't quite get to grips with it. Now I've switched to a 749S it's like night and day. Maybe you should get a test ride somewhere and see how you get on?

The Aprilia boys are very worried about parts at the moment. You should be able to get a Tuono very cheap, but what if something goes wrong or you bin it? You may be without the bike for a while. One guy has had his bike written off because the insurers didn't think they could get spares...

fatduke11111 10-Aug-2004 19:16

Good point TF.. I am looking at a Tuono 2003 model with less than 4k on it for around £5.5k - I cant get a 749 / 999 for anywhere near that, I might still try and sneak a test ride in.

I think the MS may be a bit underpowered for me.

Still fancy a 996 - got me eye on one at the mo...

bradders 10-Aug-2004 22:10

R1:puzzled:

fatduke11111 10-Aug-2004 22:47

Nah - this weekend viewing

Tuono Grey, 2003, £5.5.k, 4000miles, immaculate vs 996BP Yellow (yes - urrgh I know) 2000, 6700miles, £5.5k (mit louden-pipen and scratches)?

Who will win? (who gives a f*ck)

If any?

:puzzled::puzzled:

Twinfan 11-Aug-2004 14:57

Test ride both. If you get on with it, you'll buy the Tuono. Just bear in mind the parts situation. If you need any info on the Tuono, just let me know. I was a bit of an Aprilia geek when I had my RSV :D

fatduke11111 11-Aug-2004 15:25

Webby - sorteds the chain issue out - I adjusted it!! That'll teach me not to check after the buggers put new tyres on!!! It was way out of alignment.

I appreciate your opinions guys, anyway I'll see how I fell about both bikes after the weekend. I might take a look at the 851/888 as well.

Paul

duc749s 11-Aug-2004 17:51

Paul,

you have a U2U... Come & have a spin on my 749S - I'm only down the road.

Yes, I know, it is for sale at the moment, but at least you can have a ride & see how it feels before making up your mind...

Neil


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