Ducati Sporting Club UK > DesmoDue Race Series > DesmoDue - General Questions and Chat > tyre warmers yes or no ?

[Chris Wood]

No warmers for me thanks!

Great for track days - not for DD racing.

Now where is that extra 10bhp......

[psychlist]

I can only echo Phil and Nicks comments above. I have always been a Bridgestone man but these Diablo's are awesome on the Monster, they grip well enough from cold and warm up very quickly, giving masses of feedback all the time anyway.
Warmers are just ANOTHER expense we can do without (£200 for a set plus genny may not be much to some of you but it is to me!) and there would be no justification for forcing us to use them on "safety" grounds. You ride within your bike's and your own limits, push those limits by all means, but crashes are caused by malfunction of your judgement or your bike, not the performance of the machine or its components.

[domski]

No warmers, but I think wets would be a good safety addition.

[Redsps]

I watch and read the DD post's with great interest, and I agree with psychlist in his reply.
No warmers.


robin

[fil2]

Originally posted by domskidue
No warmers, but I think wets would be a good safety addition.

totally disagree dom for all the reasons in my above post.^..wets = spare wheels discs etc etc......costs get driven up..! most of the 675BB lads are facing extra cost with engine mods this off season the last thing we need imho is to start adding wets! wheels !!disc's !etc to the shopping list..

Phil

[domski]

Do you think they invented wets coz they were bored at the tyre factory?

I'm sure when we get a wet race, peoples opinions will change.

A set of wets @ £175 will do you a season, and a set of wheels can be had for under £200.

It could cost more than £375 if you fall off in the wet and destroy your bike.

I did £500 worth of damage when I hit Mike at Cadwell.

Fairing upper
Fairing stay
Front wheel
Clip on
Screen
Front tyre (took a chuck out)
Brake disc damaged

...and it was a pretty low key crash.

I know what you're saying Phil, but sometimes £300 spent in the right direction isn't such a bad thing. Plus having spare wheels means you have something to sell on - You can sell porting on Ebay!

[domski]

Oh, and engine tuning won't stop you falling off in the rain either

[AK]

Originally posted by domskidue
Oh, and engine tuning won't stop you falling off in the rain either

we noticed!:P



C
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[fil2]

Originally posted by domskidue
Do you think they invented wets coz they were bored at the tyre factory?

I'm sure when we get a wet race, peoples opinions will change.

A set of wets @ £175 will do you a season, and a set of wheels can be had for under £200.

It could cost more than £375 if you fall off in the wet and destroy your bike.

I did £500 worth of damage when I hit Mike at Cadwell.

Fairing upper
Fairing stay
Front wheel
Clip on
Screen
Front tyre (took a chuck out)
Brake disc damaged

...and it was a pretty low key crash.

I know what you're saying Phil, but sometimes £300 spent in the right direction isn't such a bad thing. Plus having spare wheels means you have something to sell on - You can sell porting on Ebay!

375 quid i dont have m8............and can you imagine the market price for spare wheels and discs.......you fell of in the dry...?? and all the off's so far have been in the dry.??......i would much rather have the saved 375 in the bank or not on my credit card in case of the off..............its not a limitless pit ya know...

so theoritically i could crash in the dry and cost 500, spend 375 plus on wets n wheels and it never rains.....if it rains ( i have ridden two races in the wet SoT) i guess its a question of the rider and the ability to stay on.......

If a Real deal could be struck for each competitor to get a set of wets at the start of the season for a nominal cost..if they are not used then we can give back.!..then that could be of interest....thoughts.?

If money was not the issue, or trying to keep the DD series affordable enabling all types of people to try their hand at racing ! then we could have : -

Wets on wheels
Warmers
Generators
unlimited bike mods ie forks! tuning !
10 - 12 race meetings
slicks or free tyres

and a grid of 10.................

I guess imho for people that want to step up and have the facilty to choose some of the above then move to SoT or Mini Twins.

Keep the series Basic Fun Competative affordable and it will grow and be the success it already is.................

Phil

of the soap box now....

[skidlids]

As someone that already has warners, spare wheels, discs etc to fit my DD bike I am quite happy to stick with the current tyre rule as it keeps the cost of entering the series lower.
Anybody wanting to start next year should be able to turn up on a lightly preped 583cc bike (ACU requirements) with a set of Diablos on it and be able to go out and race. They shouldn't need to be turning up with Wets on Wheels, tyre warmers, Geny Paddock stands etc.
These things can come later once they have decided if racing is for them (including the bill that comes with it).
Maybe if we can grow the series into two seperate grids then maybe a grid made up of mainly 620 bikes could be under slightly different rules wher Wets are allowed along with warmers and Diablo Corsas.
But that should be a little way off as the series is in its early stages and lessons are being learnt by everbody envolved.