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[madmav]

if there's any space left domski

http://www.ridethering.co.uk/

[domski]

Originally posted by madmav
if there's any space left domski

http://www.ridethering.co.uk/

Done

[Tonio600]

Message original : antonye
The ALT tag is the recognised W3C standard. If other browsers don't support it then they're pretty poor.

Yes it's a W3C standard, which says that the ALT tag must only be displayed when the real content can't be displayed (picture missing on the server). So I repeat it, Internet Explorer is wrong when displaying it for an available content.

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/stru....html#adef-alt

The poorest browser of the market is Internet Explorer, which is the only one not to respect the W3C standards

[Tonio600]

Message original : aliNow I'm no MS fan, and I'm using FF now, but the figures are actually over 92% IE usage for UK retail, and we've seen a drop in FF users over the last few months These are off our site for Oct.

The UK is not a good example, Firefox is not much used here. But if you look at the European level, I'm sure IE is closer to 80% of users than 92%.

http://standblog.org/blog/2005/09/26...uage-at-a-time

And because now Opera is free (I mean without advertisement), it's going to be worse for IE 7 which is not helped by its Beta versions

Trust the firefox

[antonye]

Originally posted by Tonio600
Yes it's a W3C standard, which says that the ALT tag must only be displayed when the real content can't be displayed (picture missing on the server). So I repeat it, Internet Explorer is wrong when displaying it for an available content.

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/stru....html#adef-alt

Sorry Tonio, but you are wrong - go back and read the specification.

There is no "must only" in there. The definition is summed up thus:

"The alt attribute must be specified for the IMG and AREA elements."

So IE is right in this case.

Also, the TITLE attribute has a completely different useage than for displaying text in place of images. In the case of IMG, the TITLE attribute is not supported.

HTH, (and it's my job to know this kind of thing )

[Tonio600]

I'm sorry but I think YOU're wrong mate (that's also my job that kind of things ). I think you missed the first sentence of the documentation:

Several non-textual elements (IMG, AREA, APPLET, and INPUT) let authors specify alternate text to serve as content when the element cannot be rendered normally.

I agree with you on one point only, of course the "alt" attribute must be specified, but in that case (Dom's BigPixel), there is no reason IE to display it (because all pictures are available...). And even if English is not my mother tongue, I think the word "Alternate" speaks for itself...

Regarding the TITLE attribute, I think you're wrong again:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/stru...l.html#h-7.4.3

It isn't mentioned that you can't apply it to the IMG markup... And if you read ALL what they say about it, you'll see that this attribute has been designed to do exactly what web developers working with IE do with the "alt" attribute...

[Edité le 18-10-2005 par Tonio600]

[Chaz]

Any space left Dom

http://www.piczo.com/pondstart?g=5978217&cr=1

[ScottyB]

Domski,

If you could add mine mate, although as we both know it is no where near finished...

www.hseq.org

As for the gif logo.......how about knicking one off the site for me.....the one which moves would be a good one if you could do that....."HSEQ Consultancy......global help with health & safety, environmental protection and quality assurance.....

Regards

ScottyB

[TP]

Originally posted by Tonio600
I'm sorry but I think YOU're wrong mate (that's also my job that kind of things ). I think you missed the first sentence of the documentation:

I agree with you on one point only, of course the "alt" attribute must be specified, but in that case (Dom's BigPixel), there is no reason IE to display it (because all pictures are available...). And even if English is not my mother tongue, I think the word "Alternate" speaks for itself...

Regarding the TITLE attribute, I think you're wrong again:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/stru...l.html#h-7.4.3

It isn't mentioned that you can't apply it to the IMG markup... And if you read ALL what they say about it, you'll see that this attribute has been designed to do exactly what web developers working with IE do with the "alt" attribute...

[Edité le 18-10-2005 par Tonio600]

Stand back people, it's a NERD-OFF!!!

[ScottyB]

Takes 1 to know 1 TP............

How's your gammy leg...drop me a u2u let me know how your diddling....