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Old 27-May-2005, 13:16
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If they do not have a radar reading then take it to court. A surprising number do not stand up in court where evidence must be produced.
My mate (an IAM rider incidentaly) was recently prosecuted for speeding on the evidence of a guy in a panda driving the opposite way who thought he 'must' have been speeding as it took 2 miles to catch up.
It did not stand up to scrutiny in court. I would get a good soliciter and fight it.
I have first hand experience of good and bad policemen so I know both types are out there.
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Old 27-May-2005, 13:18
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The only thing I'd comment on at the moment, being able to see this from both sides, so to speak, is to ask how you checked the accuracy of the new speedo when you fitted it?
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He checked his speed on the digital speedo which I fitted and since it read 28mph he thought no worries and continued on
If it was accurate then, is it still now???
You need to be on solid ground that what your lad says he saw on the display was actually the speed that the bike was doing.
Before you go forward, I'd ensure that you're happy that your lad was looking at an accurate indicated speed first...if not & it was out as a mate found when he compared his GPS to his digital bike speedo on a streetfighter he'd built ( 26% under reading in his case indicating 37 at a true 50mph, even though it was fitted as per the instructions! ) you may be heading for a bit of an egg in face type scenario.

Rushjob,

I have no doubt that the speedo reading was pretty close. I had a similar one on my SS and it was very accurate indeed. However I would not quote that as evidence unless I was very sure of it. My son has been riding for nearly 2 years and he is smart enoough to know the difference between 30 and 40+ mph. He spotted the police as soon as he rounded the corner and checked his speed immediately to make sure he wasn't going too fast. He may be young but he's not daft!
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Old 27-May-2005, 13:23
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Not a fan of my local force Dickie,and my best pals a policeman too.
Shame really as i know they mostly have a tough job,but strathclydes pr is so poor that its very much created a them and us situation with pretty much the whole public.You get the police you deserve they say.
Im for reforming the whole lot of them.
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Old 27-May-2005, 13:29
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So where did I insinuate he was daft?
I gave you a hint as to how to be CERTAIN that you were on solid ground.
To be sure of your position, you need to know how accurate / inaccurate it was, not a feeling.
I'll keep my thoughts to myself in future.
Good luck.
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Old 27-May-2005, 13:31
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So where did I insinuate he was daft?
I gave you a hint as to how to be CERTAIN that you were on solid ground.
To be sure of your position, you need to know how accurate / inaccurate it was, not a feeling.
I'll keep my thoughts to myself in future.
Good luck.

Andy, folk get upset and angry when they feel they have been not been treated fairly. Your thoughts are valuable, especially considering the circumstances, so please don't keep them to yourself. I am sure it was not meant as a personal attack.
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Old 27-May-2005, 13:55
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Why wasn't he charged for speeding? something odd there.
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Old 27-May-2005, 13:55
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i'd contest it
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Old 27-May-2005, 14:05
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Try this.

Speeding coppers let off 59 times.

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/pri...629848,00.html
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Old 27-May-2005, 14:26
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Derek - stay level headed and composed mate.
Get as much evidence as possible re road conditions.
If possible get a light meter and measure the ambient light in all areas of the road - where the coppers were stood, where the bike was pulled, where the bend is etcetera for the same times as your lad was pulled.
did the coppers have there helmets on and visors down?
Get a weather description if possible for the night it happened.
Get measurements.
It all helps to show you've built the most complete picture as to conditions of visibility and if prove the coppers were in error.
Best of luck.

[jokingly]And if all else fails, can't you just say the lad was familiarising himself with the digital speedo?[/jokingly]

ps, I'm sure there was a safety campaign some time ago which stated the estimation of speed of a bike with it's lights on was most often incorrect.

[Edited on 27-5-2005 by guest1]
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Old 27-May-2005, 14:36
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Derek, quick search revealed:
research
item B.2.f re estimation of speed.
(not with the lights on though but it does refer to Hills measurements?)


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