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[fil2]

Simple option is to have 3 races that all count in the dd.....


Phil

ps

Or we could debate this for hours not get everyones input etc.....

[skidlids]

I would race for a prize of life membership of the DSC as it would save me a few quid over the years, not that my 583 bike with me on it is likely to get anywhere near wining.
But just as happy to race for points, would certainly emphasise the importance of getting to the chequered in the previous two races with out badly damaging your bike in one form or another.

[antonye]

So who'll be upset when they bin it in race one, only to miss an extra 35 points because of the additional race?

Do you really want to go into the second meeting 105 points down?

[fil2]

Originally posted by antonye
So who'll be upset when they bin it in race one, only to miss an extra 35 points because of the additional race?

Do you really want to go into the second meeting 105 points down?

very valid point Antoyne , never looked at it that way....missing out on 1 race ok, u still got a chance but 2..?...mmmmmm now what lol

Phil

[dickieducati]

Originally posted by antonye
So who'll be upset when they bin it in race one, only to miss an extra 35 points because of the additional race?

Do you really want to go into the second meeting 105 points down?

the senario where anyone who is likely to win all 3 races, bins it, is imho, unlikely.
and thats a risk you take with any race, if you want to push 100 pct and risk binning it its your call, or if your aim is to just finish all 3 races thats also your call.

[antonye]

Originally posted by weeksy
if someone wins all three of the first races, then they deserve to be 105 points clear

Well, yes and no.

Think of it this way:

Race 1 : Rider A comes 1st, Rider B comes 2nd
Race 2 : Rider B comes 1st, Rider A comes 2nd
Race 3 : n/a
Outcome : Rider A and Rider B are equal 1st

OR

Race 1: Rider A was winning, bins it. Rider B defaults 1st.
Race 2: Rider A can't race. Rider B comes 1st.
Race 3: Rider A can't race. Rider B comes 1st.
Outcome : Rider A has zero points, Rider B has 105.

The ability of both riders is no different between the two, except Rider A has a DNF in Race 1.

[dickieducati]

Originally posted by antonye

Well, yes and no.

Think of it this way:

Race 1 : Rider A comes 1st, Rider B comes 2nd
Race 2 : Rider B comes 1st, Rider A comes 2nd
Race 3 : n/a
Outcome : Rider A and Rider B are equal 1st

OR

Race 1: Rider A was winning, bins it. Rider B defaults 1st.
Race 2: Rider A can't race. Rider B comes 1st.
Race 3: Rider A can't race. Rider B comes 1st.
Outcome : Rider A has zero points, Rider B has 105.

The ability of both riders is no different between the two, except Rider A has a DNF in Race 1.

the ability of both riders is way different...................

rider b is a thinking rider. rider a just goes out and pushes without thinking.

they were both aware there were 3 races that day but chose a different strategy. you dont have to win everything to come first in a series. look at how some world champions have ridden in the past. happy to take 2nd or third in the knowledge that to try and push for first is foolhardy.

[antonye]

Originally posted by dickieducati
rider b is a thinking rider. rider a just goes out and pushes without thinking.

they were both aware there were 3 races that day but chose a different strategy. you dont have to win everything to come first in a series. look at how some world champions have ridden in the past. happy to take 2nd or third in the knowledge that to try and push for first is foolhardy.

Lol! Tell that to Rossi!

The point I'm trying to illustrate is that the results would have been no different if Rider A had not come off / crashed / engine seized / got punted off - the difference is the points at the end of the round.

I'm unsure which way I would "vote" if we get asked. I'm just trying to play Devil's Advocate here by putting a counter argument across to making this extra (bonus!) round a points-scoring event.

[Rattler]

Nah - leave it as it is - 2 races to qualify, then a 3rd race for those still standing to have a hoon around and get some race practice in.

I think that practicing under race conditions (oxymoron??) could be very useful, being able to practice another start, learn more of the track and in general work on a few things that went wrong in the races would be a great opportunity.

We are racing again there later in the year and it could be great for confidence building too.

Tim

[fil2]

Originally posted by Rattler
Nah - leave it as it is - 2 races to qualify, then a 3rd race for those still standing to have a hoon around and get some race practice in.

I think that practicing under race conditions (oxymoron??) could be very useful, being able to practice another start, learn more of the track and in general work on a few things that went wrong in the races would be a great opportunity.

We are racing again there later in the year and it could be great for confidence building too.

Tim

Gets my vote.

phil