Ducati Sporting Club UK > DesmoDue Race Series > DesmoDue - General Questions and Chat > Assen names out of hat

[dickieducati]

if a vote is being put to all riders, while we're about it how about sending out a basic rider profile to fill in too. just so we know who's in what etc.
only basic stuff:

name
age
race no.
bike
no. of previous championships won
no. of decades racing.
favourite flower etc.

[phoenix n max]

Originally posted by domski
Plus, it means doing Cadwell, Brands and Assen all within 6 weeks.

<groan> I'd better get down the gym

[phoenix n max]

3 races at Snett - Hmmm will our little 600's cope with this engine trasher circuit I wonder

[AK]

Originally posted by fil2

i assume the sat race at snetterton wil be dropped.......so we dont have to go to snetterton for a full weekend.?..

still makes an 8 meeting series tho Phil to travel to.
It just aint so 'cheap' an introduction as originally portrayed.

[fil2]

Originally posted by AK and CK

still makes an 8 meeting series tho Phil to travel to.
It just aint so 'cheap' an introduction as originally portrayed.

Some will not go to Assen making it 7 rounds ...

I think most will agree the DD has mooved on from being a budget entry to racing.....still though it is one of the cheapest ways to enter into racing...AND the best imho...but i agree it is expensive but to coin a phrase i hear bantered around when i moan about costs " there is no cheap racing "

[skidlids]

Originally posted by fil2
I stand corrected Kev......still does not alter my thoughts. So i guess u r a non points at cadwell man then

I'm happy enough with that Phil, I can't see why everybody is so wound up about points this year after I raised the point last year about late entries to the series not meeting the 2005 season entry requirements it didn't stop them scoring points and therefore causing a few riders to end up with less points than they should have had.
I can think of a couple of riders that scored NO points at a meeting because they finished outside the top 25 when riders joining the DSC and entering DD part way through 2005 did score points

As Cadwell Woodlands last year was a non points round for me with 3 DNFs I see it as a oppotunity for Novices and riders with new bikes to get in some real practice if its non points and as a race people that have never done a start before will get a chance to practice and if they get it wrong a bad finish isn't going to hurt there points tally.

[fil2]

Originally posted by skidlids

As Cadwell Woodlands last year was a non points round for me with 3 DNFs I see it as a oppotunity for Novices and riders with new bikes to get in some real practice if its non points and as a race people that have never done a start before will get a chance to practice and if they get it wrong a bad finish isn't going to hurt there points tally.

So every year when we get novices we are offering a race practise meeting with no points to practise your racing.?? so the DD is now offering a series that not only steps up from trackdays to racing in a softer environment, we are now offering a race meeting with no points to practise your racing .!........

And Kev can you honestly see cads being a practise meeting..when the grid lines up it will be a full blown race...and IF some are taking it easy cos they are practising we are then going to have considerable speed differences etc.?

[Edited on 24-1-2006 by fil2]

[phoenix n max]

Originally posted by skidlids

I can think of a couple of riders that scored NO points at a meeting because they finished outside the top 25 when riders joining the DSC and entering DD part way through 2005 did score points

*waves*

Memo to self - must try harder

[MJS]

Not being involved in any way shape or form with DD, none of this matters to me, but it's an interesting read..

Have to say - can't see the point in anyone going to Cadwell in March for a non-points scoring race, why risk anything if there's nothing at stake? Why run the risk of trashing a bike and missing the first round proper at Brands? Doesn't add up to me...

Still, good luck to everyone

Martin

[psychlist]

The spirit of DD is that of a budget, novice race series where ordinary CLUB members, who maybe have experience of track days, have the opportunity to take it to the next level without the alleged "cut throat" racing you may encounter in more "regular" race series.

Thanks to the huge efforts of Chris Bushell, Monty & MW on the RC and the riders for putting on last years spectacular, it HAS grown from that, which is one of the big reasons we've got to have a split grid this year.

One of the reasons put to me for FORCING the issue at Assen by INSISTING that it's points scoring was to coerce us to go so "the club" could put on a good show to prospective club members that would then join with us, the feeling was that there wouldn't be enough entries if it wasn't points scoring! In other words it's nothing more than a publicity stunt and we'd be the ones that'd pay for it in hard cash by going there. A fantastic opportunity yes, but not one that should be part of a budget, novice race series, especially as it's a limited grid! Apart from the fact I can't afford it I won't be going on principle.
I think it should be a "Trophy Race" like the race of champions at Castle Combe, I don't believe it should be points scoring but if you're going to force anyone to take part at Assen then why not "just" make it a points scorer for the 620 series?
What would you then do with the 583 riders who would want to go but would not be "part" of the race?
If you let 583 riders compete in a 620 race at Assen (it IS a mixed grid after all) how will that affect those that want to play hard-ball in the 620 class when they come flying round a corner to find two 583's having their own private battle in the twisty section of the "583" race? Should anyone give way? Of course not!

Those people that can afford to go to Assen (or those that get selected) will be battling in a smaller field than they would normally, those of us that normally finish in the bottom half of the order (myself!) would benefit by scoring higher points than we otherwise would. Is that fair on those that can't afford it or aren't selected?

The whole thing about us going to Assen is out of context with a budget/novice race series, especially when we have tracks available in this country that can take both classes on full size grids and are easier to reach for the potential club members that I've ben told we want to attract by going to Assen.
At the end of the day (it gets dark. I know) you pays yer money and takes yer pick, but until it's finalised it is still open for debate. So let's!