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Old 16-Sep-2005, 20:20
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on't forget that 10bhp may not sound much, but it's 20% between 52bhp and 62bhp.

Not sure how equal riders would go on 120bhp and 144bhp for example?

Probably go the same speed eh - not!

for what its worth im not so sure horsepower counts anywhere near as much as some people are making out.

last time i was on my 146 bhp 999 at brands indy best i did was 58.65

on my 60? bhp monster a week back best i did was a 58.06

now, ok its a year apart and hopefully i have improved a bit but even so? going from what some people are saying i should be WAY slower on the monster.

...but you're a muppet

Look at what Andy Johnson did at Brands... from 53 ish up to 66 ish, and went from fighting for 5th??? at best to fighting for a WIN!!!!!

A good rider shows the diff between 53 and 66.

I'm sure you'd go a bit faster on the 999 this year - in a race - if you weren't worried about dropping it etc etc
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Old 16-Sep-2005, 20:22
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...and if it was down to rider ability, why are all the fast guys on expensive and finely fettled bikes?

Coincidence I suppose.

Why didn't Geoff, Clint, Dave and Mike just spend £1500 on a 583 if that is all you need??
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Old 16-Sep-2005, 20:54
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Look at what Andy Johnson did at Brands... from 53 ish up to 66 ish, and went from fighting for 5th??? at best to fighting for a WIN!!!!!

A good rider shows the diff between 53 and 66.

yeah!

and look what Andy did with a 583 at Cadders at the beginning of it all eh?:P

And remember Andy had never ridden that bike he had at brands - nor had he ever ridden the track, not put in any tracktime since Donny!

Dom - you get out on a 583 mate & show them how its done....
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Dom - you get out on a 583 mate & show them how its done....

...I'm waiting for you to go out and show me how easy it is :P
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...and if it was down to rider ability, why are all the fast guys on expensive and finely fettled bikes?

Coincidence I suppose.

Why didn't Geoff, Clint, Dave and Mike just spend £1500 on a 583 if that is all you need??

And why are you SO slow on a 620 mate

I know coming from me it sounds like a joke. But I'm a typical example that rider ability is much more important than the bike... Because I've never done better than 15th on the bike supposed to be the best for the series.

But actually, I think we won't agree on that point. It doesn't mean that I'm right or you're wrong we just see things in different ways.

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Old 16-Sep-2005, 22:27
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My 620 makes 53 bhp thats why!!



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Dom - you get out on a 583 mate & show them how its done....

...I'm waiting for you to go out and show me how easy it is :P

that would be too easy - I'd need my road mirrors on, to see how far you were behind me!:P:P

C, off to Rugby next week......
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That one is for you Dom :

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Question : What bike modification has the most impact on performance?
Answer: Suspension! Suspension! Suspension!

You may be surprised to know that the answer is not extra power. The greatest gain is to be faster through the corner, not in a straight line. Improving the suspension allows you to brake later, carry more corner speed, accelerate earlier, and reach your top speed quicker.

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The best example is on a race track, where approximately 80% of the lap time is spent entering and exiting corners. If a bike can corner just a fraction of a second faster on every corner, 80% of the lap time must show an improvement. We've calculated, a 100 bhp 750cc bike would need to squeeze another 40-50 bhp to achieve the same gain.

Ok mate, it comes from an Hyperpro leaflet and of course they were not going to tell us that changing our suspension is useless, but anyway, I do believe in that way of thinking. And even if I think they may exagerate when they speak about 40-50 bhp, I do think bike suspensions and rider ability are more important than 10bhp (especially when those 10 bhp are out of 60...).
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