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Old 26-Aug-2003, 10:09 AM
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999s dyno run done....toys out of pram time!!!!!

finally got my 999s dyno'd. it has full 54mm termi's and 14t front with slipper otherwise standard. realsitically was looking for 130+ at back wheel. it came out at 120!
crank figure was 130 which is 6 down on stated figure for a standard bike. now i know dyno's vary etc etc but surely it should be chucking out more than this. the whole reason i paid out 1500 quid was to get more power for track days and i seem to have ended up with less! unfortunately i didnt have it done before the cans went on so dont know if it was poor before or just as a result of the cans.
spoke to ducati ashford where i bought it and as it happens there was a guy there from ducati who was asked what i should be expecting. he basically gave it the "different dyno's, looser engines, ram air" blah blah blah. im no dyno expert but there is clearly something wrong when other 999s's with similar set ups are producing at least 10bhp more. i asked what they could do about it and he basically said if i want it taking back to original cans, tested, then new cans put back, and tested to try to find the problem then it would be at my own cost!.

if i wasnt happy i would have to write to ducati uk (which i most certainly will be).
i'm well fed up, am i being overly sensitive here?
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Old 26-Aug-2003, 11:36 AM
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Yes, you are being overly sensitive!

If you really feel that strongly about it, book some dyno time with another place that uses a different kind of dyno. You will then get another set of figures which will probably give you your 130bhp at the back wheel.

Unfortunately dynos will all read differently due to calibration differences, and bikes will also read differently too.

However, I would consider putting the original kit back on to get your baseline figure and then work from there. You may find a little tweak here and there will give you the results you're looking for, but don't expect instant results.

Let's face it - 130bhp at the crank is still pretty awesome and 120 at the rear is plenty!
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Old 26-Aug-2003, 12:18 PM
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i hear what you are saying but i dont just want 130 so i can brag about it, that is what the bike should be pumping out. it was done on the same dyno i used for my 916 which was also run on a different one with identical figures so i would say it was fairly consistent. they also had runs from a 998s (esentially the same engine as mine) and that had 136 on thier dyno!.
120 is ok but those pesky gixer thou's will still leave me for dead on the straights at brands. (or maybe thats just because im crap!) anyway have written to ducati to moan so will see what comes of it.
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Old 26-Aug-2003, 02:41 PM
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Good luck - you may well have a friday afternoon bike that only needs a few tweaks from Ducati !
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Old 26-Aug-2003, 08:12 PM
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now let me see.... 130 - 120 = 10 x 10 =

... Thatll be 100 please mate?
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Old 27-Aug-2003, 12:24 AM
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Who did you get the dyno done by and on what type of dyno(Dynojet, DynoDynamics, Superflow etc)?
Have they got info available for dyno numbers on their dyno for 999, 998, 998S GSXR750 or GSXR1000?
You have learnt the first lesson of performance tuning. Get a baseline first. Depending on the dyno, with 54mm Termis you should be seeing 132-140hp at the rear wheel. With a PCIII you should be able to get to 145hp.
Unless the dyno operator is a goose, you definately have a problem, a standard 999 with asymetrical Termi's produces more power than this.
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Old 27-Aug-2003, 07:37 AM
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it was on a fuchs dyno at ron parkinson in marks tey. not a top tuning specialist to be fair. depending what ducati say may have to pay myself to get it taken back to original and start a fresh with a baseline as you say. lesson learnt. i am no expert but thier seems to be so much confusion over getting the best set up. i guess a lot of it is subjective. they said for a start a power comander wouldnt make a difference!
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Old 27-Aug-2003, 09:33 AM
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Commander doesn't make a difference???
Hows this:
Baseline is standard bike, it's all PCIII from there.
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The graph you show says a std bike is more powerful than one fitted with termi's and ECU - have I read that right?
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Testing was done with two ECU's 999 Termi and 999S Termi. The 999 Termi ECU produced better power and is what is used in all three graphs shown.
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