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Old 22-Apr-2005, 12:18   #21
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oh, ok .. is that because Dell dont use organically farmed DDR Ram and wooden cases from sustainable resources ???

Sorry Ian, for I am about to sin!

Dibble, it's because Dell build down to a very small budget - it's like buying a Kia! Which is why they are infesting companies as a preferred desktop supplier and, lord help us, server supplier in some organisations because techo's don't make many of the decisions anymore - beancounters do!

The 'large, blue chip' I work for is going down the Dell server path at the moment and I have seen some of the estimates in time and money to add management software into our monitoring and management infrastructure which is scary! Lots of money is going in to making them work in our environment so they must be a LOT cheaper than the HP kit we used exclusively before.

I'm glad I don't do hands on anymore!

Edited to add: I feel sorry for guys like Freak who are at the coalface with this sort of kit - it can be a bit repetitive explaining to your boss that the server has lost its RAID config again ... and it puts a lot of pressure on your backups which now have to be perfect and are called upon frequently.

I rest my case ...

[Edited on 22-4-2005 by TP]

here fishy, fishy fishy .........
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Old 22-Apr-2005, 12:22   #22
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Luckily Tony I don't support the hardware, or even the OS to a degree, I just have to support the apps running on them, which as you say if the raid config decides it's going south for the winter not only kills the server but also my app, so after the hardware/OS support sit on it for a few hours when all hell is raining down on me, it falls back to us to do the whole thing.

But like you say, these days is down to cost, luckily for me/us it appears HP are now the standard server suppliers, or possibly IBM, changes daily I'd have Amstrad or Sinclair before Dell
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Old 22-Apr-2005, 20:18   #23
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I was only looking at paying about £40,if that helps.I don't use the machine for gaming or watching videos.So just a PSU,fan and couple of usb's will do.If thats any help.
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Old 23-Apr-2005, 13:08   #24
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Rich, i just found a couple of PSU fans out back, not sure if they are any good to you, will bung them in the parcle, if no good to you just bin them.
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Old 24-Apr-2005, 11:04   #25
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personally i get all my parts from Novatech at www.novatech.co.uk I have built about four machines although about three years ago. PC world is an absolute last resort and OK if you know exactlty what you need, dont rely on the staff! Well thats my experience anyway, I bought a book with easy to follow photos and used is as a guide. I found building the machines easy, the tricky part was loading the operating system and other software. I built the PC's in probably an hour but the software can take best part of a day, unless you are sat there doing nothing else. One other tip is not to canabalise the machine you currently use so that you can download all the drivers and help info that you need before your new PC is operational.
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