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Old 05-Nov-2004, 19:46
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network o/t

i was told that i can set up a network between two puters without using a hub. if i used a special cable called a cross over cable(xover)
have purchesed said item pluged it in to both machines(one is on xp one on 98)and i have run new network wizard thing on both but i dont seem to be getting any where.
any ideas peeps
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Old 05-Nov-2004, 23:30
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Hello

I dont claim to know anything about PC, But I connect a PC to a Mac using ethernet, and as long as you have the means for ethernet (normally an ethernet card - I think quite cheap now, installed in both computers - then it all comes down to speed of transfer you need.)

Its a basic network, saying that I would still recommend a HUB to connect to the internet as your main computer needs protection accessing the net, last thing you need is a virus on the slave computer.


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PS don't quote me I only know my system and it works for me.

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Old 05-Nov-2004, 23:55
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Glyn, you're correct -an ethernet cross-over cable is all that's required from the hardware side.
Now you need to set up the two machines to communicate to each other - easier said than done!

Points to check:
1) Make sure both systems are using the same workgroup name - on XP go to control panel, system and then click the 'computer name' tab - check the workgroup name here. It's usually either WORKGROUP or MSHOME unless you've changed it.
2) go to Network Connections from the control panel and click on the 'Network connections' option. Find your 'Local Area Connection' and right click then choose 'Properties' Highligh the 'Internet protcol' and click 'Properies' button. Click the option 'Use the following IP address' and in the IP address box below enter the number 192.168.0.1, in the Subnet mask enter 255.255.255.0 - leave all other boxes blank. Click OK on any open windows to close them all off applying the updates as you go.

Now on the Windows98 system you need to do the same things (but they're is slightly different places).

3) Right click 'My computer' icon on the desktop and choose Properties. Go to the 'Network Identification' tab and check the Workgroup name is tha same as in step 1 above. If not you need to change the Workgroup name to match - I can't remember which button it is to do this, but it should be (reasonably) obvious!

4) Do the same thing as step 2 above, but change the IP number to 192.168.0.2.

You may need to reboot the W98 machine to get the new settings to work, the XP doesn't normally need rebooting.

Following that you should be able to see the opposite machine via your 'network neighbourhood' option - however you will need to create a 'share' option on the hard disks to be able to read/change files on one machine from the other.

I think that covers it, but it's a very difficult process to describe partly from memory and not having the system in front of you at the time. If anyone else can add further to this or correct me if necessary, be my guest!
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Old 06-Nov-2004, 09:32
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Also, make sure the MS Firewall is off on the connection and that you have no other firewall apps running.

You can always put it back on later once you've determined if it works of not.
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Old 06-Nov-2004, 18:39
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cheers chaps
have now tried every damn thing i can think of
must be doin summit wrong but dont know what
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Old 06-Nov-2004, 18:47
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You havent plugged your network cable into the phone line socket have you??

(we di the same thing but the other way around!!!)
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Old 06-Nov-2004, 19:16
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Old 06-Nov-2004, 20:58
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only took me three hours to fix that one!! Well they are very similar looking sockets!
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Old 07-Nov-2004, 09:17
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cheers
since i last posted i have upgraded 2nd machine to xp
i now do have some sort of connection as if i turn one machine off the other reports loss of connection
though i still cant do ought

weeksy have tried this and recieved no reply from either

[Edited on 7-11-2004 by Glyn]
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Old 07-Nov-2004, 10:27
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