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Old 18-Apr-2006, 17:04
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i need some advice on a fixed penalty speeding ticket with 3 points
was guessed at speed by cop parked in a side road as 3 of us went past him
he didnt have any evidence which he made us aware of just his judgement
i have posted on pepipoo already for advice but wondered if anyone on here had any
mainly want to know if he could just use his judgement
we didnt challenge his decision at the side of the road because of cans ,dark visors and small plates.
whats the score likely to be?
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Old 18-Apr-2006, 17:06
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in the immortal words of Jim Carey (Liar Liar)

"stop breaking the law ********!!!!"



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Old 18-Apr-2006, 17:22
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I was under the impression that 2 police officers could estimate your speed and this would be taken as evidence if they decide to do you.
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Old 18-Apr-2006, 17:23
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i would definitely challenge it.but be careful next time you will end up losing you licence
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Old 18-Apr-2006, 17:26
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I am sure someone will be along soon to advise properly but I would definately challenge it.

A couple of years back my mate had to go to court when his speed was 'estimated' by an officer travelling in the opposite direction. Was thrown out when it got to court as no evidence was offered.
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Old 18-Apr-2006, 19:44
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The officer is correct in that he can estimate your speed however he is in need of some form of corroboration for an effective prosecution.
This corroboration can take the form of an "approved device" - laser, VASCAR, Provida, - his speedometer if following you or another officer sat / stood with him agreeing that you are in excess of the speed limit.
Without this corroboration he is banking on your paying the ticket and taking the points.
IF all of the information you have posted is correct and nothing has been omitted, there is insufficient evidence for a successful prosecution and I would ask for the case to be heard at Court.
However if he has you on the VASCAR or similar you're stuffed!!!

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Old 18-Apr-2006, 20:44
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"we didnt challenge his decision at the side of the road because of cans ,dark visors and small plates.".............

ok, no speeding......................just the £2000 fine for these then!
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Old 19-Apr-2006, 08:46
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telll the court that because you had noisy cans on it SOUNDED like you were speeding but you wernt!!!
better than speeding innit!??lol
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Old 19-Apr-2006, 08:49
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telll the court that because you had noisy cans on it SOUNDED like you were speeding but you wernt!!!
better than speeding innit!??lol

Also because of the dark visor you could not read your speedo clearly

Based on the above comments from the clever people I would fight it if the cop was on his own and had no other evidence.
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Old 19-Apr-2006, 08:59
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would he have put on the ticket estimated if he KNEW and not just guessed the speed.
if he had our speed on vascar would he have said and showed us the evidence?
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