Has anyone got one of these?

TonyH · 30-Oct-2006, 20:53

Has anybody bought one of these of ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Delux-H-Duty-M...3300 43306891

Are they any good, would you recommend them, the price seems good but as with most thing you usually get what you pay for.

Is rivetting a chain a difficult job, does it have to be perfect or do you run the risk of the link failing and the mayhem that could follow or would you recommend getting one fitted by your usual mechanic.

chicken · 30-Oct-2006, 21:59

I've got something similar but without the nice case (which I think is worth having as I keep losing the small bits).

It's not difficult to "rivet" a chain as they usually come with a clip to go around the joining link.

Look for the link with the clip on the existing chain (if it doesn't have one, you will have to do a bit of filing), remove it and temporarily attach the new chain to it and the pull it around the rear sprocket by rotating the wheel (obviously you will have the rear wheel on a stand!)

When you have looped the new chain through, check to make sure that you have enough adjustment for when it stretches out over time (otherwise you will be removing links at a later point).

To attach the clip, use the tool to hold the plate in place, push the clip part way over by hand then use a hammer and screwdriver/blunt chisel to push it in the rest of the way.

btw, that looks an okay price - not a super bargain but not bad considering you pay £40 for a similar one from M&P that comes in a cardboard box.

skidlids · 30-Oct-2006, 23:05

I have used and broken one of those before, thinking it would be as strong as my splitter, silly mistake, the one I use is about twice the price and a lot stronger.
i can't recall the make (has a pic of a whale on it) but the guy who has a chain stand at Kempton Autojumble sells them and if my information is correct it should be Kempton this Saturday

andys 900ss · 30-Oct-2006, 23:10

Sounds like a 'Whale' one Kev, thats what I've got.

Andy

ps Good to see you at the DD on Sat, well done for the award.

chicken · 30-Oct-2006, 23:50

fair point Kev but you do probably get through more chains than your average biker!

I know what you meant about breaking them but I could see the body flexing slightly so I did some more filing before it had the chance to break.

skidlids · 31-Oct-2006, 01:06

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Originally Posted by chicken

fair point Kev but you do probably get through more chains than your average biker!

Thats probaby true, I have been using the Whale tool for riviting since about 1991 and for splitting chains I use a DD spliter that my dad picked up for me secondhand in 1979.
Good tools are worth the investment and last the distance

chris.p · 31-Oct-2006, 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken

It's not difficult to "rivet" a chain as they usually come with a clip to go around the joining link.

.

I think that is a "Split Link" that you are talking about Chicken, to rivet with one of those tools you will need a "Soft Link".

You can get "soft links" for all chains, in fact i think nearly all new chains for larger capacity bikes come with a "Soft Link", I would be loath to use a "Split Link" on any bike above 250cc.

Chris

chicken · 31-Oct-2006, 09:11

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Originally Posted by chris.p

I think that is a "Split Link" that you are talking about Chicken, to rivet with one of those tools you will need a "Soft Link".

You can get "soft links" for all chains, in fact i think nearly all new chains for larger capacity bikes come with a "Soft Link", I would be loath to use a "Split Link" on any bike above 250cc.

Chris

sorry - yes I was talking about a split link (with the little circlip), although this tool should still help with that.

Kev, you are absolutely right - one lesson I have learnt in life is that the quality remains long after the price is forgotten.

I don't mind spending money on socket sets, etc that I use all the time but it is annoying to have to spend a lot on something that gets used very infrequently. Perhaps the solution is to club together with mates who live close by to get a joint set of good tools?

Monty · 31-Oct-2006, 09:19

"Perhaps the solution is to club together with mates who live close by to get a joint set of good tools?"

Could be a good plan Chi, especially for something like a chain rivetter and splitter. I have a very robust unit that cost about £60-it's a bit like Kev's but different.

John

chicken · 31-Oct-2006, 09:24

the problem for me with this is that the only person that lives near me is Dibble - and his entire toolkit fits under the seat!

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30-Oct-2006, 23:10	#4
andys 900ss Registered Forum User Big Twin Posts: 1,589 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: nottingham Mood: #65 Double Desmo Due Champion - Class B 2007, Class A 2009 Sounds like a 'Whale' one Kev, thats what I've got. Andy ps Good to see you at the DD on Sat, well done for the award. Reply

30-Oct-2006, 23:50	#5
chicken Registered Forum User Big Twin Posts: 1,670 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brick Lane Curry House Mood: suck, squeeze, bang,......fart? fair point Kev but you do probably get through more chains than your average biker! I know what you meant about breaking them but I could see the body flexing slightly so I did some more filing before it had the chance to break. Reply

31-Oct-2006, 09:24	#10
chicken Registered Forum User Big Twin Posts: 1,670 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brick Lane Curry House Mood: suck, squeeze, bang,......fart? the problem for me with this is that the only person that lives near me is Dibble - and his entire toolkit fits under the seat! Reply