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I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

Paying it back is takes infinitely longer than borrowing it ......

Welcome to Dibbles world ....

[bradders]

Originally posted by DIBBLE
I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

I borrow it, I spend it, i pay it back ....

Paying it back is takes infinitely longer than borrowing it ......

Welcome to Dibbles world ....

remarkably similar to mie.....

[ducv2]

I am in the lucky position, due to my choice of career, in having the time and skills to do all the work myself, OR the money to pay someone else to do it. My choice which way I go. But unlike some, until now I have never felt the need to state that, which is why I started the thread on elitism.

[Rushjob]

Can we get back to bikes now?
You know, riding them & stuff.....
Just a thought.

[Jools]

I generally find that the less money I've got the more hung up on it I tend to be.

Although the threat of redundancy has been quite real for the last few years and I pretty much get employed from project to project, and even though we've had all pay increase frozen for the last 3 years which has seen me slipping behind people in other companies, I've got a pretty good job which pays well.

But I know what it's like in the world of big, big debt. My wife had a flourishing little DTP business right back in it's earliest days around 1987, but it went under in the big recession at the tail end of 1990. The fallout from this business folding went on for 10 years of continual debt and fear of opening the mail in case somebody was taking us to court. At one stage it got so bad that we lliterally scraped down the back of the sofa to find money for food, and when we found none, the whole family lived on porridge oats for a week until payday. From a position where, for quite a few years, we had a combined income of around four or five times the national average, we suddenly found ourselves with absolutely nothing and a mountain of business debt.

Painful times, but would I have had it any other way? No.

It taught me a lot. It taught me that anybody, and I mean anybody, could find themselves in that position overnight. It taught me that my marriage can withstand pressures that not many marriages have to go through, it taught me that the most important thing you can give to your kids is love instead of the latest Nike trainers, and I hope it turned me from a brash, boastful, money grubbing snot into somebody with a sense of fair play, balance and humility.

I fully accept that, unless I win the lottery, or wake up and find I've turned into Bill Gates, that a lot of people are always going to have a lot more money than me. Good luck to all of them. Unless they're the likes of Prince Edward they've probably worked hard for it, taken risks and come up trumps.

If that manifests itself on this site as those people being able to cover their Ducati in expensive billet and carbon, or have multiple bikes, or being able to race? Fantastic. Don't begrudge it at all.

What I do begrudge are the (thankfully few) comments such as (and I'm obviously paraphrasing here) "Oh, you've just got the baby R then" from a 999R owner to the proud owner of a new 749R. Frankly, I find that patronising.

I will also freely admit that I would have liked to see the DesmoDue rules made tighter from the start. The very first announcement of the series indicated that it was intended for the novice and was specifically set out to avoid 'cheque book' racing. Having taken part in a fair bit of motorsport, I'm not naive enough to think that you can race with anything other than a fair sized healthy cheque book. However, it's clear that some people have a significant advantage simply because, with the rules as they are, they can afford a more competitive machine. So I would like to see some of the shoestring teams beat the relatively well funded ones, but that's not because I'm green with envy over the sze of some peoples bank balance, it's simply because I've always supported the underdog.

[rockhopper]

Too cold and salty to ride at the moment Andy!

Totally agree with Jools about the DesmoDue thing as well.

[dickieducati]

Originally posted by Jools

I will also freely admit that I would have liked to see the DesmoDue rules made tighter from the start. The very first announcement of the series indicated that it was intended for the novice and was specifically set out to avoid 'cheque book' racing. . However, it's clear that some people have a significant advantage simply because, with the rules as they are, they can afford a more competitive machine

its a bit off thread but i honestly dont think anyone will have a significant advantage due to funds. i think all the bikes will be within a whisker of each other in terms of performance now. imho, you would be able to put the podium finishers on any of the others bikes on the grid and they would probably finish in the same position.

[Ray]

If you are talking about racing there is this well worn Cliche,

"Speed costs money how fast do ya wanna go?"

Talent can't be bought, generally speaking, but practice can help.

If you want some more cliches

"Money can't buy you happiness.................but it means you can rent it for a while".

I could go on.....................................but work beckons,

Ray.

PS its all bout how in Ya face people are about money stuff. In the DSC context you ride what you ride, you buy what you buy, you spend what you spend, how much "noise" you make about it is the crux of the matter IMHO. Yep there is an element of good natured on upmanship (+) no bad thing on the whole but there is also an ego element (-)

[Edited on 28-2-2005 by Ray]

[adam]

I work in the building industry, every site I go on to i will have some other trade going on about what floor tilers are earning. come on then mate what sort of money do you get per metre, why do they want to know, will it make them feel better? when laying a limestone or marble floor then the questions really start regarding money. In the end i told one guy who pestered me that i have been getting £380 per day laying marble, he never came near me again. ( i lied about the money) I work hard to buy all the things my family want/need, plus my hobbies. I had years where i would buy £2.00 worth of petrol all with 2p's and 1p's. Now I find myself going through fazes where I work 7 days a week, cant stop myself, its not the money, but the fear of being out of work some day. i find it hard to turn people down ( especially with very big kitchens/conservatorys). Now seeing as there are a few wealthy people on this site, do you need some very nice marble/limestone?

Damn, reading this I think i need to see a shrink

[Edited on 28-2-2005 by adam]

[Albie]

I have just about enough money to get by and have some fun. Separated and will prob get screwed by the ex soon so my duke is all I got that keeps me happy apart from a nice lady Im getting to know. The bikes a piece of metal at the end of the day and is replaceable and saleable if the circumstances need.I cant afford much so will make do and buy whatever and whenever allowed. I have no problem with any one with money and how many bikes they ride. I still have to sell one bike as its no point keeping it. I get on with all and if they think Im worthy then will befriend me.And also the other way round.