Ducati Sporting Club UK > DesmoDue Race Series > DesmoDue - General Questions and Chat > Can you do the DD double - 583/620?

[Scooter916]

Originally posted by boggy 8
. I think that the 583 class should be for novices only.

That would be one less 583 bike out there, MINE
I wouldnt enter the 620 either as its not exactly budget racing .
Glyn

[butch890]

Originally posted by Scooter916

That would be one less 583 bike out there, MINE
I wouldnt enter the 620 either as its not exactly budget racing .
Glyn

Dont really understand this one,other than the original purchace price (recouped on resale) how can the 620 class be any dearer than the 583's.
Butch

[dickieducati]

no i'm with you on this, but i know what people mean about having to initially stump up more cash which they may not be able to find.

[domski]

I agree with Geoff on the 583 being for novices - from 2006 onwards.

Anyone who has competed in DD in 2005 (without whom, there would be no series) should be allowed to choose whatever class they like, regardless of experience etc.

However, if they then leave the 583 class at a later date, then they can't come back in.

Just like in 125 gp's etc where they age limit came in, but current riders over 25 could continue to compete, until they moved on - thus preventing them from returning to 125's again.

Something like that should be in the rules.

[domski]

However, now I'm thinking about it, I'm going to disagree with myself.

Not everyone can afford a 'competitive' 620, whether they're an ex-world champion or not (and not ridden for 5 years), so you could end up with a lack of 583's if the stream of novices dries up.

Maybe it would be better to keep the current rider eligibility rules in place,

adding...

"Should you fail to register for subsequent 583 championships AND compete in at least 2 rounds, you will be deemed ineligible to compete in future 583 championships. Subject to the race committee's discretion"

So, if I did 583 next season, and then registered to do it again in 2007, then I could, but...

If I registered for 620 in 2007, or simply didn't register and compete in at least 2 rounds of 583 in 2007, then I would forfeit my right to enter that series in 2008, and would have to do 620 or something else - unless my Uncle Chris or Unlce Monty let me ride in 583.

How does that sound?

[domski]

Originally posted by butch890
Dont really understand this one,other than the original purchace price (recouped on resale) how can the 620 class be any dearer than the 583's.
Butch

Running costs are the same, as you rightly say Butch.

Not everyone can afford to purchase a 620 in the first place, regardless of whether you get your money back when you sell it.

...and it may ONLY be £2500 or whatever, but I don't have £1000 to buy a bike.

Loose change to some, is a fortune to others

[dickieducati]

Originally posted by domski
However, now I'm thinking about it, I'm going to disagree with myself.

classic!

if only weeksy (god bless him) was the same. we could have just let him get on with it.

i kind of feel people are trying to make it too complicated. have to have done this for so many races; have to have a novice vest from this date; have to have had fish fingers the night before, blah blah blah.

how about giving it a few weeks seeing what the numbers are and then just letting series run?

i thinkyou;ll find it will all come out in the wash quite nicely.

at the end of the day no matter what grid you are on or who else is, you are still trying to beat whoever is out there

[ChrisBushell]

Ok folks,

Uncle Monty and I are going to burn the midnight oil and have the 2nd draft rules out to you all tomorrow afternoon. We think that we are nearly there now, with sufficient safeguards, etc to protect the two classes, keep the racing close and a lid on the budgets.

No doubt there will be further feedback, which should be directed to Desmodue@ducatisporingclub.com

[Tonio600]

Message original : domski
However, now I'm thinking about it, I'm going to disagree with myself.

Not everyone can afford a 'competitive' 620, whether they're an ex-world champion or not (and not ridden for 5 years), so you could end up with a lack of 583's if the stream of novices dries up.

Maybe it would be better to keep the current rider eligibility rules in place,

adding...

"Should you fail to register for subsequent 583 championships AND compete in at least 2 rounds, you will be deemed ineligible to compete in future 583 championships. Subject to the race committee's discretion"

So, if I did 583 next season, and then registered to do it again in 2007, then I could, but...

If I registered for 620 in 2007, or simply didn't register and compete in at least 2 rounds of 583 in 2007, then I would forfeit my right to enter that series in 2008, and would have to do 620 or something else - unless my Uncle Chris or Unlce Monty let me ride in 583.

How does that sound?

That doesn't sound anything to me. Couldn't you do it even more complex?