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[desmojen]

U2U sent Fil

[mab]

fil2

you will not regret selling the duke at all for the zx10.


I changed from a 10 to a 749s and was very dissapointed to say the least and now i'm in the process of trading it in against a new all black gixxer1000k5!

Once you have ridden a bike like this there is no going back.

I suppose it all depends on how you get your enjoyment from biking- i think for a lot of ducati owners the pleasure is in the ownership of a nice looking bike with a racing pedigree but i for one get my thrills by how a bike rides and the feeling a get when i'm giving it some stick.

I test rode the gixxer on friday and it gave me such a buzz that, i swear, it took me hours to come down off the high the engine is awesome-stupendously quick, but every bit as impressive was the handling.

You should definitely get that test ride and then be prepared to part with the cash. i'm getting a really crap trade in with the 749s but i dont care, i just want to get back on a bike that takes my breath away each time i ride it! that for me is the essence of biking and not meeting with several other owners of the same bikes and admiring how shiny they are!!

Keep 'er lit

Mark

[Stu748R]

Thats why i've got an R1 too,

I love polishing and just looking on every available occation the 748R but which one do i prefer to ride??

Cant answer that as i still want to be part of this great club but..................
10 is a good number me thinks

[yellow916]

I recently traded in my 916 for a 2005 R1 (but I'm keeping the SP3). I chose the R1 over a ZX10 mainly because it is a bit roomier, and I doubt I'd tell the difference in performance etc, they're both far better than I can really use! There's obviously a vast difference in performance, and they both handle well (to me), but in different ways if that makes sense. I basically bought the R1 because I had to get that performance thing out of my system, and I've no regrets at all so far.

Andrew

[desmojen]

Thanks for the support guys, glad I'm not the only one!

[fil2]

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmm trade in hear we come i think..... or is that..

[Henners]

Jap bikes are great - but they're not like the real thing. Can't get passionate about them

[mab]

Originally posted by Henners
Jap bikes are great - but they're not like the real thing. Can't get passionate about them

See i dont understand when you say they're not like the real thing???

These 'jap bikes' are the real thing- look at the developement that goes into these bikes and the money each of the manufacturers spend getting the latest technology from the racetrack to a bike that anyone, ie myself, can go and buy for less than 9grand- its simply awesome!! The japs spend millions upon millions racing bikes every year and this then filtered down to me on my latest gixxer1000-not the real deal-i dont think so!!!

But like i've said before it really depends what it is that gives you your passion for a bike and for me its the thrill i get when i'm riding it-the power, the handling, the balance (the wheelies lol) etc thats what does it for me!!

keep 'er lit

Ps did i mention the reliablity lol lol

[Jools]

Originally posted by mab

See i dont understand when you say they're not like the real thing???

These 'jap bikes' are the real thing- look at the developement that goes into these bikes and the money each of the manufacturers spend getting the latest technology from the racetrack to a bike that anyone, ie myself, can go and buy for less than 9grand- its simply awesome!! The japs spend millions upon millions racing bikes every year and this then filtered down to me on my latest gixxer1000-not the real deal-i dont think so!!!

But like i've said before it really depends what it is that gives you your passion for a bike and for me its the thrill i get when i'm riding it-the power, the handling, the balance (the wheelies lol) etc thats what does it for me!!

keep 'er lit

Ps did i mention the reliablity lol lol

All bikes are terrific fun whether they're Japanese, Italian or British...It's just that like most people on this site Ducatis do it for me.

We don't all sit around polishing 'em, I've got a bike because I want to ride it, and I ride it every chance I get. I've got several riding buddies that do the same, all on Ducatis, and we regularly clock up 250-300 miles a day on rideouts. We don't pootle round either, I like to think we ride responsibly through towns and villages but on the open road we ride as fast as anybody would want to ride. I can easily scare myself witless with 80-100 bhp so personally, I don't need to go any faster than my current bikes can go.

My bikes are still faster than me in the fast group on track days as well - even my ST2, and I've been round the outside of bigger Japanese bikes on that (haven't tracked the 888 yet).

I'm a long way from being the quickest rider about, and I'm no track god, so on the road and on the track, I'm the limitation not the bike, so I'm not sure what I would do with 160 bhp that I can't do with 100 bhp.

I wouldn't go around corners much quicker with extra horses - if at all because it's always on corner speed that I go past more powerful bikes anyway. I wouldn't get more drive out of corners with 160 bhp because I would have to feed in the power much more gingerly, so I can't think what I would do with the extra power other than wind it on down the straight bits and try to keep the front wheel on the deck.

I guess after R1's, Gixer Thou's and the like a 749 would feel tame to you, and maybe you're a much quicker and braver bloke than me. Maybe you've got a higher fear threshold and need the extra power to give you the same adrenalin rush that I get at lower speeds.

Who knows! It's just that Ducati's do it for me and Japanese bikes don't so much. It's not an elitist thing, both my bikes combined aren't worth as much as a new Gixer thou.

[DC]

Originally posted by Jools

All bikes are terrific fun whether they're Japanese, Italian or British...It's just that like most people on this site Ducatis do it for me.

We don't all sit around polishing 'em, I've got a bike because I want to ride it, and I ride it every chance I get. I've got several riding buddies that do the same, all on Ducatis, and we regularly clock up 250-300 miles a day on rideouts. We don't pootle round either, I like to think we ride responsibly through towns and villages but on the open road we ride as fast as anybody would want to ride. I can easily scare myself witless with 80-100 bhp so personally, I don't need to go any faster than my current bikes can go.

My bikes are still faster than me in the fast group on track days as well - even my ST2, and I've been round the outside of bigger Japanese bikes on that (haven't tracked the 888 yet).

I'm a long way from being the quickest rider about, and I'm no track god, so on the road and on the track, I'm the limitation not the bike, so I'm not sure what I would do with 160 bhp that I can't do with 100 bhp.

I wouldn't go around corners much quicker with extra horses - if at all because it's always on corner speed that I go past more powerful bikes anyway. I wouldn't get more drive out of corners with 160 bhp because I would have to feed in the power much more gingerly, so I can't think what I would do with the extra power other than wind it on down the straight bits and try to keep the front wheel on the deck.

I guess after R1's, Gixer Thou's and the like a 749 would feel tame to you, and maybe you're a much quicker and braver bloke than me. Maybe you've got a higher fear threshold and need the extra power to give you the same adrenalin rush that I get at lower speeds.

Who knows! It's just that Ducati's do it for me and Japanese bikes don't so much. It's not an elitist thing, both my bikes combined aren't worth as much as a new Gixer thou.

Well put that man.

When I was younger, all I craved was more and more power for my road bikes of the time. I wanted to go quicker and quicker.
The bikes I had were things like GPZ600Rs, GSXR1100Rs, NSR400Rs and ZXR750S. No slow coaches any of um.

The last Jap Bike I had before I got My Ducati 748 was an R1. That was a cool bike, really quick and had me hitting 160mph all the time!!

Thing is it just didnt float my boat and I had always wanted a Ducati 916 etc after having a TL1000s and falling in love with a V twim lump.

I now find that My 748 just does it for me. I have a bike that I can tinker with and modify when I want to, It looks the muts nuts, It is quicker that I am and I have found that it is so nice to have got away from the, " Must have next years model syndrome."

I didnt get my Ducati to be a posh sod?? I got it because I have always liked the shape, the thought process behind the design, the V twin engine, the sound, the character and I have a bike that I can tinker and maintain my self.

Perhaps its just me growing up ( getting older) and being happy with the bike Ive got. I dunno. All I can say is that I still find the latest Jap bikes cool and the engineering is really mind blowing.
Its just that the power is, Im sad to say, getting to much perhaps? Maybe I am wrong but I know that all that on the road cannot be used.

Still wouldnt mind a go on the new GSXR1000K5!. Wouldnt want to pay for one though. They just dont do it for me any more.

DC.

[Edited on 20-10-2005 by DC]