Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > Banned/edited/censored

[Paul James]

Nelly. Right on the button, what more could any rational person add or take away from that !!!.

You've balanced the comment regarding what it has cost you in giving discounts, against the benefits you've had from the exposure on the site, that's commercial reality. It is the people who bring nothing to the party yet want all the benefits and to be able to freely abuse whoever they feel inclined to that are the problem.

I'm only too aware, from my own experiences, of how much is involved in making your own business work and I well recall talking about it with you when you were considering having a go. Fair play to you've succeeded and you darn well deserve it !!!

It is good to see that there are still people out there who have some appreciation of how difficult it can be to run the site and the club in general, particularly as you pointed out as it is all voluntary input from people who, like yourself, who have a true passion for the marque.

[Gizmo]

Well said Nelly, nice to hear it from a DSC supporting trader.

There's a lot of good points in the postings above, many thanks to those who have contributed.

At the recent MT meeting a draft set of advertising rules were proposed as a basis to work on for a new set that will (hopefully) prove more managable than previously.
Rather than putting the detail up here in this early stage and getting a multitude of diverse suggestions, a group of msg board regulars have been asked to contribute (off-line) in preparing the new advert rules. Once this group have sorted out something that is seen as fair and reasonble to members, non-members, private and trade, the topic can be discussed at the forthcoming AGM and implemented shortly after.

If you have any suggestions to make, please continue with this thread - all I am highlighting is that there is work already going on 'behind the scenes' and just because there are very few responses from either MT or Webteam members doesn't mean we're not taking note!

Eamonn.

[Henners]

Posted by Nelly
If you don't like or agree with the rules, then stand up and take an active role in the club. Give up hours of your free time to change it............

Don't get me started Neil

[Ian]

thanks Neil.

[Loz]

Some of the ideas posted on this thread will have the affect of increasing the amount of work our unpaid MT will have to do.
As I understand it, the current system is that ads that are in breach of the rules get deleted (sooner or later, when they are spotted). Any alternative to the current system should cause the MT no more work than they currently undertake, in order to be workable.

I can't see a problem with the current level of advertising.

(All just in my opinion, of course.)

[ricco749s]

NELLY - what a refreshingly sensible statement....not thinking of opening up in London are you - couple of nice stores down here currently looking pretty sorry for themselves?

[madmav]

How can you measure IT! Advertising

pay or not pay!

value to the club !

Big question there!

My advert for the nurburgring experience so far in terms of the club (DSC) as achieved Didley squat

as we have never run a trip for the DSC as yet


BUT


The year before Last a member of the DSC "Binned" his 998 Bostrom at the RING!

I was down in Italy on a WDW week for JHP

I took a phone call at 7pm from a guy i had never heard of!

By 10pm his bike was recovered and my friend in Germany delivered it back to the uk for a Fraction of the cocst

Two simple phone calls from me and the DSC member was out of the ****!

The point here is MY Advertising on here Yields (so Far nothing)

but through my association with the DSC, someone benefited from it!

Advertising for me a sole trader (expensive)

Being fair with the MT ()

Being associated with mav ( priceless)


well said nelly !

[Rushjob]

I'm a regular user of Rennlist - a Porsche forum.
The rules on there are simple.
If you want to advertise cars or bits of bling as an individual you can do so if you are a paid up member.
If you want to advertise items as a company, you pay to do so.
If non paid up members or companies try to advertise, their thread lasts all of about 10 minutes before it gets "moderated"
It's simple and there's no room for confusion as listed here.......

Lately, Rennlist has had a number of businesses and "marketers" soliciting their wares in threads and posts. Some are veiled, whilst others are more brazen. Since Rennlist is the single largest Internet site dedicated to Porsche automobiles and enthusiasts, it is bound to happen. But.......

To be clear, Rennlist would not exist except for paying Sponsors and Members - and they, along with us - feel it is unfair that they subsidize non-Sponsor sales and marketing efforts, often times with competing products with Rennlist Sponsors. In short, if you are not a Sponsor, the Rennlist Charter prohibits commercial posts to the Forums.

What is commercial solicitation? For example...

If you post We/our/my company has... - you are selling something....
If you post We/our/my product is... - you are selling something....
If you post We/our/my customers'... - you are selling something....
If you post We/our/my will be announcing... - you are selling something....
If you post We/our/my test results for our... - you are selling something....
If you post We/our/my can make or supply that... - you are selling something....

If you/your company/product would like to have your unaffiliated/unbiased customers talk about your product - they are more than welcome to do so. However, as a commercial vendor with a sales intent - you are not.

Further, you are more then welcome to participate simply as an individual enthusiast - BUT NOT as a vendor/sales agent with a sales agenda. As well - a "Rennlist Member" does not broker you being a "Rennlist Sponsor" and acting as such, no more than being a Member of a car club entitles you to receive a free commercial full-page color advertisement in their monthly publication.

Until you become a paid Sponsor, please understand your "advertisements" will be either edited or deleted, as it's neither "fair" to those who support this site - nor "us", the Rennlist community.

That's the American approach for businesses whilst for individuals there is the choice of posting items for sale in the members only section - that is paid up members - or in an open section for all to see. If you haven't paid up to support the forum, you can't sell.

Welcome to the Member to Member Classifieds!

Did you ever want to buy and sell parts, cars - stuff - from only other Rennlist Members? Well - now you can....

This Forum can not be viewed by site visitors or non-Members, so the only folks who can see your ad are other Rennlist Members. By contrast - the Rennlist Classifieds, while open to only ads from Rennlist Members - the "buyers" can be anyone...

So - if you'd like to offer your Porsche, parts, etc. - to only Members first, you can post your ads here before going to the "Rennlist Classifieds" in the Rennlist Mall area

[madmav]

Rushjob ! That makes a lot of sence