Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > 748 dilema

[Ozz]

I am very very tempted. The only things putting me off are:

1. If this one has no recent history it will need a 12k service which is what say £600?
2. If Moto Rapido have one with fsh, newer, less miles, service on purchase and warranty for the same price would I be stupid to get this one now? Only drawback with MR are that bike is yellow and they probably would not take my Fazer and if they did the price would be less anyway.

I have re read the advert for this red one and it says FDSH so I think I will check with them again...

[weeksyracing]

Originally Posted by chicken

Steve,
I’m not saying you are on a wind-up – I do believe that you believe that a big-CC Japanese bike is better than a Ducati. You’re entitled to your opinion but the price that you pay for that privilege is that others are allowed their opinion also. And on a Ducati site, you shouldn’t expect to be in the majority.

You’ve said above that “no-one here can ride any of their bikes to the full potential or even 90%.... but it’s all about fun”. So are you saying that everyone is going to have more fun on a Japanese bike than on a 748? I can’t believe that is true because there ARE people that choose to ride a 748 over a big Japanese bike, precisely because market forces set a higher price on the 748.

Of course i'm not expecting to be in the majority.....

And of course, no i'm not saying you can't have fun on a 748 but only on a Jap 1000..... However.... i'm not like so many on here totally closing my mind to the possibility that Jap bikes can give everything a Ducati can (and more IMO).

As for the Market forces and prices.... well if i were to be harsh, that's because Ducati are Iconic machines, and their label is what people pay for, not the performance or the bike.

[weeksyracing]

Originally Posted by Ozz

2. If Moto Rapido have one with fsh, newer, less miles, service on purchase and warranty for the same price would I be stupid to get this one now? Only drawback with MR are that bike is yellow and they probably would not take my Fazer and if they did the price would be less anyway.

A little bit yeah. If you can get one with FSH, then that's got to be a good plan.

ring em and ask about the Fazer... you never know.... they may pay less for that but more for the Monnie.... you know, evening itself out.

[chris.p]

Paul, If a 748 is what you yearn for then go for it, just do not let your heart rule your head & buy the first one you see, like you said, if you can not PX the Fazer into the deal, is it worth doing, I think not, look around at othe dealers. I know lincoln is far away but they have a W reg 748R http://www.italiamotoltd.co.uk/
a bit pricey for my liking but look at dealer web sites you might just find what you are looking for, just so long as it is Yellow


Chris

[chicken]

Originally Posted by weeksyracing

Of course i'm not expecting to be in the majority.....

And of course, no i'm not saying you can't have fun on a 748 but only on a Jap 1000..... However.... i'm not like so many on here totally closing my mind to the possibility that Jap bikes can give everything a Ducati can (and more IMO).

As for the Market forces and prices.... well if i were to be harsh, that's because Ducati are Iconic machines, and their label is what people pay for, not the performance or the bike.

See, this post I have no problem with at all. It lays out your opinion but allows for the differences of others.

The last point is fair enough but you can't correlate performance directly to price. Firstly, how do you define performance? Is it outright power? Is it the torque curve? Is it the way it goes around corners? Then there are the other intangibles like riding position, noise, etc.

A more interesting question is why do 9X6/8's cost so much more than 748's? I remember seeing a site somewhere (might be Ducatitech) that said that they thought they should cost pretty much the same to make.

ps back on topic - Paul, go for it!

[Ozz]

I think it is a 748 i am after.

Trouble is the heart does take over in these situations. Take when I bought your Monster, if my brain had been in charge I am sure I would not have bought a bike 250 miles away!

This time I am being a bit more cautious and am certainly waiting for confirmation of whether it has a fsh. If it does then it looks a bit more promising. If someone else buys it in the meantime then so be it.

[Ozz]

Well the brain is in control this time definitely!

Just had them confirm that no history in books since 2003 with belt change 2002. They put it down as having a full history as books say every 20k km.

I have emailed back and said I would only buy it (or consider it) if either they get a full belt service done or I just swap my 2 bikes for it and pay for service myself.

We will see what happens

[weeksyracing]

Originally Posted by Ozz

Well the brain is in control this time definitely!

Just had them confirm that no history in books since 2003 with belt change 2002. They put it down as having a full history as books say every 20k km.

I have emailed back and said I would only buy it (or consider it) if either they get a full belt service done or I just swap my 2 bikes for it and pay for service myself.

We will see what happens

Sounds like an excellent piece of logic to me.

[Ozz]

Originally Posted by weeksyracing

Sounds like an excellent piece of logic to me.

Its the accountant in me!

[Ozz]

Have had an answer (sort of):

Leave that with me and i will be in touch

So who knows!