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[skidlids]

Originally Posted by trouty

dude, i'm pretty sure that at most meetings last season where we were sunday only, NE eventually cottoned on and also held non championship DD races on the saturday... i can definitely remember this being the case at snetterton and at cadwell. And, if my prevailing memory serves me correctly, the majority of sunday dd'ers were also saturday dd'ers, if that makes sense!

not to mention the amount of dd'ers that also enter 2nd and in some cases 3rd classes as well, NE do pretty well from the DD series!

they certainly do well enough from the dd series to warrant, at the very least, a response to emails being sent to them! seriously, at what cost is an email? 2 minutes of time. and what cost to not bother replying to an email? i'm not on the grid this season, you do the math.

KRC went belly up cos they suddenly felt they didnt need to communicate with the teams anymore, NE are going the same way. I hope they can turn it around.

OK done a quick bit of Counting

Cadwell Saturday - Class A 15, Class B 8
Cadwell Sunday - Class A 17, Class B 17

Donington Saturday, 10 from both Class A & B sharing with Hornets & 400s
Donington Sunday Class A -22 (includes a few Class B riders), Class B 19

So how many empty grid spaces, I make it between the order of 14 to 28, with each space worth £100 plus over two races or one long race, do the maths on that

And Brands last year was just like Donny this year, Two Races with a Mixed grid of both Class A & B, No reserves on Saturday and a few on Sunday

[trouty]

Originally Posted by Scooter916

Cleggys Spilling BTW

Cleggy's a south african???

[trouty]

Originally Posted by skidlids

OK done a quick bit of Counting

Cadwell Saturday - Class A 15, Class B 8
Cadwell Sunday - Class A 17, Class B 17

Donington Saturday, 10 from both Class A & B sharing with Hornets & 400s
Donington Sunday Class A -22 (includes a few Class B riders), Class B 19

So how many empty grid spaces, I make it between the order of 14 to 28, with each space worth £100 plus over two races or one long race, do the maths on that

that makes 13 missing on Cadwell saturday, and none missing from Donington saturday, as they entered into an entirely different class.

so thats (using £100 as a ball park figure) £1300 missing from the saturday grid.

OR, another way to look at it... an ADDITIONAL 23 entries at Cadwell and an ADDITIONAL 10 entries at Donington, using the same £100 minimum figure, thats an ADDITIONAL REVENUE of £3300 that NE wouldnt have received.

peace yo

[couchcommando]

Originally Posted by Chris Wood

You, my friend, are hilarious

Everyone knows top of the pre-season training list for DD is whinging, to miss out wets and warmers from the pre-season whinging schedule is short changing the newcomers, they can damn well take in the whole DD experience as we have all done for the last few years

[paynep]

Originally Posted by couchcommando

Everyone knows top of the pre-season training list for DD is whinging, to miss out wets and warmers from the pre-season whinging schedule is short changing the newcomers, they can damn well take in the whole DD experience as we have all done for the last few years

I think the only thing missing this year is an ex-MotoGP rider being cleared to ride in Class B.....?

[trouty]

Originally Posted by paynep

I think the only thing missing this year is an ex-MotoGP rider being cleared to ride in Class B.....?

i hear Hopkins has become available and is looking for a ride...

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by trouty

that makes 13 missing on Cadwell saturday, and none missing from Donington saturday, as they entered into an entirely different class.

so thats (using £100 as a ball park figure) £1300 missing from the saturday grid.

OR, another way to look at it... an ADDITIONAL 23 entries at Cadwell and an ADDITIONAL 10 entries at Donington, using the same £100 minimum figure, thats an ADDITIONAL REVENUE of £3300 that NE wouldnt have received.

peace yo

Cadwell grids were seperate as we keep telling new Era we have at least 25 per class racing so please don't mix our grids,
So we get to Cadwell with seperate grids each day and Cadwell can take at least 38 so only putting 8 on it is 30 places short & £1000 is £3k
Class A grid 23 empty places so thats £2.3k, a total of £5.3K not earn't from those grid slots.

So in summary two full grids of 38 at £100 per spot should generate a revenue of £6.8K or even if settling for 25 slots thats £5k revenue expected
and we paid them less than £2.3k for those two grids, as Mats Class A entry would have been at a cost of £25 per race. The other costs are based on £100 as a round figure, yes I know its more by about 10% to 15% and although that does increase the income it also increases the losses by more

Sunday we again fell short of filling the two grids that we had been given, we didn't even get half a grid out in each class so again New Era made a loss.

[Scooter916]

Well my entry Has gone in this morning, Even though I still have No idea as to the race day(s) format.
I suppose the more entries we get in Gives us a bigger clout and the earlier they are in gives us more time to negotiate.

[WeeJohnyB]

Checkout the new CB500 racing, now moved from NE - after a lifetime there they are now with Thundersport for all the reasons you lot bleat about. (poor NE have reaped what they have sowed for years so their own fault). It all looks extremely professional and they are up to 44 bikes, most I've ever heard of in my time. They also have a way around the grid situation and the full season question.....don't know if it's right, but appears sensible. The forum is brand new and doesn't include all the old posts and debate before they got here. I think the racers behind it have done an amazing job in taking a max20/25 grid, very often a lot less up to full grids and reserves. Also no longer just the Honda 500 Cup, so other 500's can enter (although none have up to now so its all CB5's).....maybe DD should let an old guy on his shed enter DD class B to help fill the grids....go on go on go on

I'll need my wets and warmers mind you......ha ha ha

http://www.cb500cup.co.uk/

WeeJohnyB

[trouty]

Cadwell sunday

mixed grids
all comers 500 had 11 on the grid. 4 of which were dd'ers
all comers open and dave holland trophy had 17 (bear in mind it was billed as the Dave Holland Festival)
supermoto/SoT/Supermono - 21
probike open + f600 - 21
125/250/f400/cb500/sv (5 classes sharing a grid) 18... 5 were dd'ers

single grids
Desmo B - 17
Desmo A - 17 (2 class B)
supermono 18
lansdowne classics had 23

so of the 4 classes that had single grids, each of our class had practically as many, and almost as many if not more than, the mixed grids.

Yes, im sure NE may have lost some money here, but that CANNOT be attributed to the DD classes!