| I've only done 12 years of road riding (but only two years born again since a 19 year layoff), a couple of trackdays and CSS level 1 to 3. There are undoubtedly shed loads of more experienced, and quicker, riders out there than I am.
The discussion seems to be split down the lines of roadcraft or track training. In my humble opinion the two methods of training are not mutually exclusive, they both have their uses and I think are more closely related than has been portrayed in this thread.
Examples of where CSS style techniques help? Well, all the visual techniques - looking into the apex, choosing reference points, watching vanishing points, looking where you want to go, the drills against target fixation and the wide vision stuff are all equally applicable road or track.
Likewise, the drills on body positioning, being relaxed on the bike, moving your weight around smoothly on the bike are all good things to know wherever you're riding.
I also know from personal experience that the CSS 'hook turn' technique for dealing with a corner that tightens up on you saved me from adding to the number one biking fatality statistic, which is - middle aged born again runs wide on a fast left hander into the path of oncoming traffic and has a fatal head-on (B645 between Stonely and Staughton - you BHC guys know the one).
However, would I use the CSS deep entry points on the road? Not on a right hander unless I want to make the turn on all the crud that gathers on the outside of a bend. Left handers? Probably, if there's no traffic near my chosen turn in point.
Do I use "quick turns" on the road? Only on wider roads to practice them, and when there is no traffic about. The technique is all about countersteering very positively. The quicker you push the inside bar the quicker the bike will get to the required lean angle, the further you push the bar the greater your lean angle will be. That's fine on the track when it's as wide as most motorways, you've got plenty of room to compensate if you get it slightly wrong. On narrower roads you only have the width of a single carriageway to play with (unless you're sure you can use both sides of the road), so when you go to push the bar quickly, it's all too easy to push it too far and end up oversteering the bike. It's also too easy to remember that you can easily oversteer the bike, you over compensate for that. Consequently you only give the bar a meek and ineffective shove, and end up not steering hard or fast enough. Quick steering on the road is hard, you have to be incredibly precise and accurate, it requires loads of practise, which you can only do on the road unless you can afford loads of trackdays, a bit of a vicious circle.
I do aim to master quick steering by doing it while I'm riding very slowly. It's harder at higher speeds because it takes more force (because of the gyroscopic effect of the wheels), and therefore requires more confidence in the technique to turn the bike quick.
Having said all that. Only the visual techniques help you with all the other traffic hazzards that roads throw at you, and I would welcome the chance to get a bit more savvy about potential hazzards through IAM and Bikesafe etc even if it meant wearing a Sam Browne belt.
I would like to be a quick and safe rider on the road, I don't want to be the quick and the dead  | 
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