Ducati Sporting Club UK > For Sale / Wanted > Private Adverts > Lookout for the old scam if you are selling

[HW]

Just noticed this thread on scams and I'd like to make known my mate's experiences on eBay so (hopefully) no-one else will get caught out.

The idea is that PayPal is a safe, conveneient, way of doing business. It's convenient, but far from safe. My mate sold 2 things last year, a mobile phone (more like a mobile pc really than a phone, the one that flips open to reveal a keyboard) and a pair of concert tickets.

The phone - someone bought it and paid through PayPal. PayPal confirmed that the money had been paid and so matey sent the phone off. Some time later (several weeks) PayPal contact him saying that he owed them £300 because the buyer had paid using a stolen credit card. PayPal have no system for stopping this kind of fraud and so they chase the "easy target". They have no idea who the buyer really was now, so they are suing my mate for the money instead. Maybe they don't really stand a chance, but they are giving him grief anyway and he iwll ahve to defned himself in court.

On the concert tickets (worth £100 or so), he posted those and got a certificate of posting. No idea why he did not send them recorded delivery, I think I would have. Anyway, a couple of days before the concet date the buyer claimed that they had not arrived. PayPal INSTANTLY refunded him the money and then sent a claim to matey for the £100. The assumption was that the seller had ripped off the buyer, not considering the possibility that it was the other way around.

That's my 4 penneth worth anyway.

[buggeritt]

a mate of mine bought a rolex watch on ebay, he paid £2500.00 for it by going into his bank and transfering the money into the guys account. no watch arrived so he tryed to contact the seller but no luck he asked paypal to refund but they said no as it was a) over there limit and b) an unconfirmed address. so buggeritt he goes to five o. only to be told by plod that there was nothing they could do as he had "voluntarily paid the money into the guys account". !!! be carefull boys and girls. and while iam here does anyone wont a m reg 916 strada (single seat) with 5000 miles genuine. updated electrics. totally standard for £3000.00 if so call me on 07971 628450. chris

[beek]

A few years agao a mate of mine was selling his tv in the local paper. This bloke rand up and said he wanted to look at it so along he comes and said yes the tv looks great hed have it. Then he says the video player looks good was it for sale my mate said as he does everthings for sale so the chap says how about the sterio so he done the deal £300
The chap askes for a hand to carry the things to his car where his girl friend is sat. He says to her pay this chap £300 so out comes a wad of cash and she counts out £300 my mate couldnt believe his eyes there must of been about 5 grand in this wad.
The chap thanks him and drives off. NOW FOR THE FUNNY BIT.
My mate then think yipee lets go down the pub. so he and his girl go down the pub this was where i am.
He orders his drinks and one for me and gives the barman a £20.00 note the barman gives it a look and then checks it under a ultra violet lamp and low and behold its a fake. My mate cant belive it hes got another 14 of these. he some how bluffs his way out of this one and i give him some money for the drinks to keep the barman happy.
He was as sad as a pig all night knowing he had been conned, he admited his eyes were transfixed on all the dosh the girl in the car had and didnt think about checking it the money was real.

[paologray]

look out for this scam, I did it myself once and never realised until the guy contacted me..... Read on....

okay, I had a cheque book which I thought I had lost so I contacted the bank for a new one. Ive written about 3 cheques all my life, so When I needed to write one I just grabbed the 1st cheque book I could find( it was my old one, looked exactly the same as the new one). so I write out the cheque and sent it off. It cleared. everone was happy, I had my ebay items, he had his money. then I get a letter from the bank about 4 weeks later saying that the cheque I had written was from my old book, that the money would be returned to me, with no charge, and they would take the money back out of the other guys account!!

Completely an accident on my behalf, but people could use this to great effect....

Dont say I didnt warn you!!

paolo!

[bike mad]

I had the same skam when I tried to sell my bike on ebay, the guy sent me a cheque, I was not fooled at all and wound the guy up for days, it must have cost him some money on the phone and I kept the cheque, one less to get someone else with,
if you get this scam tell them your pc is on the blink and to phone you, and keep them on the phone as long as poss, call it cheap justice

[Carbon749]

So far I've been lucky with e-bay, PayPal etc ...

but, did get an e-mail the other day from PayPal confirming my payment of £850 for an engine out of a Honda car.

Intstant reaction is to think what the F*** I have not bought an engine. The e-mail looks 100% genuine. On the bottom of the e-mail is a link syaing "if you did not authorise this transaction click here and report this".

When you click on the link it takes you to the "PayPal" site and ask's you to log in. The e-mail is bogus, the site you go to is bogus. Once you have logged in to the bogus site they have your paypal account details and take over control, change delivery address, order stuff using your credit card etc etc

[duc daz]

i bid on a full termi system on ebay .i went in at £800 and some one bid £820 i didnt think any more of it but the next day i got a email saying second chance offer i thought the guy that had won the item had pulled out .then i got a email from a guy that had bid under me saying ive contacted all the people that have put a bid in for the termi not to send any money to the address because its a scam checked it all out and yes it was close call or what always check second chance offers out email the guy that is selling the item

[vfactory]

Hi guys.. am new here.. I thought I should add a few more scams to this list..
UK banks, by law, have to clear all cheques within 3 working days.. whether they are overseas or domestic. A mate of mine had a cheque sent over from the US for some old parts he was selling and the money obviously cleared. He shipped the stuff off.. and then about a week later the bank called and explained that the cheque had bounced (and he owed them some money cuz he'd blown the money on a new bike!!)
Second scam. beware of people on ebay who don't have a paypal account. They will want payment by Western union and this again is not secure.. its like going to a bank and entering the money in his account.. probably worse. ebay nor western union advice it. I desperately needed a part from NZ and i sent the money off (plus WU fees & postage) and havn't seen it since last year!!

[Lightning Boy]

[quote=vfactory]Hi guys.. am new here.. I thought I should add a few more scams to this list..
UK banks, by law, have to clear all cheques within 3 working days.. whether they are overseas or domestic. QUOTE]

UK Banks are not governed by UK civil law, they are governed by the FSA. Clear a cheque in 3 days ?