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Old 30-Nov-2006, 09:15
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forgive the ignorance, but what is Soilant Green?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green
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Old 30-Nov-2006, 10:18
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Old 30-Nov-2006, 09:29
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Unfortunately illegal immigrants (usually Eastern Europeans) are quite common around here.

From which Eastern European countries are these illegal immigrants from?

If you're referring to immigrants from the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia or Slovenia, then as citizens of EU member states they have every right to live in the UK and are not illegal.
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Old 30-Nov-2006, 10:01
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Not wanting to sound like a "Grumpy Old Man" but this seems to be typical of the way society unfortunatley seems to be going, it's awful that this happend to this lady or anyone, but this attitude seems prevelent these days.
The litter thrown down, the sods who damage your car in the supermarket car park and drive away !!! just typical of todays attitude.
I was glad to see that the drunk driver on last night's Police camera action got 4 years in jail,he showed no remorse for his victim and I was glad the Police got him on this second occasion. We should have more of this but just think of the cost saving in our time, tax etc if all people behaved a little more responsably and thought of others and just think the world could be a better place !!!
However stop dreaming, this is Blairs nanny state and I am sure that before long motorbikes will be banned as being anti social and we will have to use electric scooters !! rant over, have a good day,
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Old 30-Nov-2006, 10:05
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But 4 years is not 4 years, its probably 2 if that and I would bet my last pound that with a week of getting out he will be behind the wheel, pi55ed and without insurance etc.
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Old 30-Nov-2006, 11:10
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Not wanting to sound like a "Grumpy Old Man" but this seems to be typical of the way society unfortunatley seems to be going, it's awful that this happend to this lady or anyone, but this attitude seems prevelent these days.
The litter thrown down, the sods who damage your car in the supermarket car park and drive away !!! just typical of todays attitude.
I was glad to see that the drunk driver on last night's Police camera action got 4 years in jail,he showed no remorse for his victim and I was glad the Police got him on this second occasion. We should have more of this but just think of the cost saving in our time, tax etc if all people behaved a little more responsably and thought of others and just think the world could be a better place !!!
However stop dreaming, this is Blairs nanny state and I am sure that before long motorbikes will be banned as being anti social and we will have to use electric scooters !! rant over, have a good day,

But this is a symptom of society as a whole. We glorify the things which are wrong and we put people down for doing or saying the right thing. Just look at how the gangster lifestyle is glorified in music and games. Your kids and mine are growing up thinking these things are acceptable and part of life today. No one is saying these things are wrong. Same with immigration. Everyone knows UK is a soft touch and a place to make money. I would welcome the same level of immigration as Australia in this country. We do live in a very privileged place in this country and if you have been to a 3rd world country you'll realise just how fortunate we are in UK.

We will reap what we sow !!
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Old 30-Nov-2006, 11:39
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And the gits are going to make you pay for parking your bike in London soon!

That means that there`l be reduced parking coz they won`t be able to put enough parking meters on existing bays.
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Old 30-Nov-2006, 12:01
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I would welcome the same level of immigration as Australia in this country.

There's already plenty of Australians in this country.....
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From which Eastern European countries are these illegal immigrants from?

If you're referring to immigrants from the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia or Slovenia, then as citizens of EU member states they have every right to live in the UK and are not illegal.

Hi Phillc,

Apologies for my delay in responding.

A neighbour / friend said he had a brief encounter with the foreign workers and although they spoke very little English he managed to ascertain their country of origin. He said the foreign workers he met were Polish and Bosnians but he doesn’t know where the rest of the workers originated from.

This company is not fussy from which countries they get their cheap labour, they have used people from a wide range of countries including some of the countries you mention. Everyday they use several minibus vans to ferry foreign workers, whether all or some of the workers are legal and or illegal I don’t know.

This is what I witnessed while driving home one day. I looked across a field and saw Police and what appeared to be Immigration and Social Security officials wearing fluorescent yellow jackets en masse questioning workers, some of whom were being put into vans.
Evidently, the Police and other officials had reason to believe that something was amiss with some of the workers otherwise they wouldn’t have been loading some of them into police vans.

Your statement is correct and I agree, however it is not that simple and not every case is the same.

All citizens of European Union Member Countries are able to travel, reside and work in other EU member countries providing the individual meets certain requirements.
I’m sure and I also hope especially given the current political and religious climate that if any immigrant or immigrants are suspected of wrongdoing and thought to pose a serious threat then the authorities would take immediate and appropriate action.

Ask yourself this; Without physically or verbally asking an Estonian, Latvian or Lithuanian could you tell on hearing their accent/s from which country they originate, if you can then you’re a better man than me because I could not.
Same goes for people from Slovakia, Slovenia or Bosnia or any people from the former Yugoslavia, they sound alike and have very similar dialects.

You have your opinion which you are entitled and I have mine. I personally feel most of the immigrants whether legal or illegal are economic migrants and I am not alone with my line of thought.
If an asylum seeker is of the opinion that his or her life and the lives of their families are at serious risk within their own country then they should seek refuge in a neighbouring country not travel across several European countries to reach the country of their choice.

I feel that this thread has somewhat detracted from the death of an innocent woman who has had her life cruelly ended by a drunk driver. Whether the driver is a legal or illegal immigrant is irrelevant, this could have been committed by a drunk driving UK citizen, however it does leave an extremely bitter taste in ones mouth.

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Got to agree.

But the powers that be seem to reluctant to enforce any real law, regardless of who commits it. It is verbal warning, slap on wrist, minimum sentence - its pathetic. all this from a country who are ready enough to send our troops abroad to dish out justice... send MPs instead. Feckers, all of them...
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