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[LesPaul]

I may have missed this somewhere in the various posts but instead of letting the 600's have a big bore kit why not have a weight penalty on the 620's sp power to weight is closer? Then as Paul has said the 600's will eventually die out as the 620's become more affordable and the weight penalty can be lifted on them.
Another quick question, how can I persuade SWMBO that I really should race her M600

Darren

[TP]

Originally posted by weeksy
Bradders is riding a 620 along with TP996, there's enough weight on them thank you very much

Edzachary!

Although, I may end up on a 600 ...

[fil2]

im interested in this for sure...but can someone please list in order for a simpleton like me what i need to do........reading all these post is just confussing..........

ie.....where do i get my license....do i have to join a club like dp..and wot bike can i buy..lol when does it start and wots the cost........

Phil

cheap n cheerfull is the order of the day..everyone on a level pegging the riding making the difference not the size of yer wallet...................

Phil.

[ChrisBushell]

Folks,

Friday update.

There are 7 deposits sat in the file after the post this morning.

With regard to the cost of overbore kits, the price that someone got from DLS should now be looked at as a maximum price that it will cost, it should come out cheaper. This will be finalised once we get over the 20 deposit stage.

I am having a run through end of next week about finalising the rules, but currently the following changes are likely to come into effect :

Wheels have to be std Ducati per original fitment for the model, with the exception that a 5.5 rim can be fitted to the rear.

Tyres will be from an approved list of manufacturers, sizes and types + wets. These to be defined as road legal and with a moulded tread (not wets).

A 2nd front disk will be allowed, of standard type, with original spec calipers (no trick or WSB ones) and an applicable master cylinder (no trick or WSB ones allowed).

On the front forks, no external adjusters allowed. That is std 600/620 front forks, free internals.


You can run either 583 or 620/674, to score points towards the championship. It will not be 583 only.

That I think will answer most of the questions that have been left outstanding, but feel free to contact me diirect for further explanation.

Chris

[Rattler]

Originally posted by ChrisBushell
You can run either 583 or 620/674, to score points towards the championship. It will not be 583 only.

Chris

For clarification - will there ba a single class or 2 seperate ones ? ie one class for 583 and the other for 620/674?

Tim

[ChrisBushell]

Tim,

At present all I can say is that you will all be out together as a group. If as I expect we run with New Era, then we will award points within class/section or whatever we call it and there will be two wooden spoons on offer at the end of the series to the winners.

Currently Monty and I see this as the easiest way of resolving this issue.

We have to allow the 620 as it will be the way forward after the supply of 583s has been trashed through racing. However it is likely that in the 1st year we may have a majority of 583s.

One of the people who has sent in his deposit, should be getting a 600SS tomorrow and is going to try and get it on a dyno for us next week. At that point we will know what the relative HP values are and look at the advantages of the 674 kit. We know that a 620 with a chip puts out 62hp at the back wheel.

Chris

[phil_h]

I'm currently in 'hovering' mode ... although I really, really like the _idea_ of racing a 600 ... there are still things that are in the air ...

1. I've never ridden a monster (but know that they handle much better than an ss) and am hesitant about racing without my 'bum in the air '.
SO - is it monsters-only or not ?
(and what about the old pantahs ? you can get them for under 2k !)

2. Stumping up 3k for a bike I might not be able to modify to suit me (ie clip-ons and rear-sets cos i'm a lanky git) does not sound like a good idea.
SO - what mods will be allowed ?

3. my wife wants to know why I want yet another race bike (I race a classic duc single and 2 even older velocette singles) as this so-called road-bike will end up NOT being road-legal.
SO - do we have to keep them road-legal ?

[ChrisBushell]

Phil,

It is not Monsters only, I know that several people are looking at the SS option, you will also notice that the rules say that bars are free.

No you cant have a Pantah it is only for post 92 motors.

Modifications allowed are in thr rules, down loadable from the home page. You caould consider the £1500 583 SS/Monster, exhaust, shock, forks, 2nd disc and go that route (only difference as I see it is rear sets on the Monster.

With regard to road legal, the rules allow you to remove lights, etc if you want to; it doesn't say that you have to!

Chris

[phil_h]

Now some facts about real racing ...

1. If you're really fast it doesnt matter so much what you ride cos you go past everyone on the corners.
(eg I ran my 450-single-road-bike at a brands track day and passed bikes on every corner)

2. If you have a really fast bike it doesnt matter if you're not so good on the corners cos you overtake everyone on the straights.
(eg see eg above ...)

3. (1) + (2) = racing

4. If a race-grid starts with the class-leaders at the front then they will probably clear off again.
This is NOT racing imho, and the guy at the back with less bottle or a slower bike will give it all up after a few races, as he will not be having enough fun.

5. If the grid is random, or has the class-leaders handicapped, the (poor) guy at the front will have butterflys, and a good time !

[paynep]

With New Era the first race is random grid positions (yes, I have been on pole and sh8t myself) and the second is in championship/points order.

Don't forget that most of us will also be eligible for the Novice race too!