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[TP]

Well, as they're reducing the engine size in the near future why don't they do away with the advanced aerodynamics so that they don't get this problem? Lets see the best drivers in cars that are a bit slower and loose!

Then driver skill would come into the equation more and we'll see some better racing.

[beancounter]

I believe that's the plan Tony - much reduced downforce.

[MJS]

Originally posted by TP
Well, as they're reducing the engine size in the near future why don't they do away with the advanced aerodynamics so that they don't get this problem? Lets see the best drivers in cars that are a bit slower and loose!

Then driver skill would come into the equation more and we'll see some better racing.

Everytime they legislate to reduce the aerodynamics, the teams spend more money trying to claw back what they've lost, and end up producing cars that are even more sensitive aerodynamically, hence the inability to run close to the car in front and therefore the lack of overtaking.

Another point - do away with refueling. It's too easy for teams/drivers to rely on a better strategy or pitwork to make their moves - without pitstops the drivers would have to have a go at getting past a car in front...

Just my thoughts... or some of them...

[Wylie1]

Originally posted by Urban996
Another point - do away with refueling. It's too easy for teams/drivers to rely on a better strategy or pitwork to make their moves - without pitstops the drivers would have to have a go at getting past a car in front...

If they do away with refuelling/ pitstops, the only time you'd see a change of position is if a car breaks down. Mind you, at least you could watch the 1st lap, then go & have some fun on the bike

[MJS]

Originally posted by Wylie1

If they do away with refuelling/ pitstops, the only time you'd see a change of position is if a car breaks down. Mind you, at least you could watch the 1st lap, then go & have some fun on the bike

Didn't used to be like that when cars ran the entire race distance on one tank of fuel and one set of tyres. At the moment there is no incentive for drivers to take a risk in going for an overtake - it's easier to wait for the pitstops. Take out the pitstops and the drivers are faced with either holding position and accepting where they are for the entire race, or having a dive down the inside of someone and taking a chance.

[rcgbob44]

Unfortunatly, Bernie won`t listen to anyone at all about F1 being boring. You only have to look back at the way the 500cc class was going downhill then thank god someone listened to what people were saying and changed the rules bringing back the interest to the sport with all different formats of engines etc.

For F1 to carry on he needs to listed to joe public and to the drivers and teams, do you really think all the cars having 2.4 litre v8`s is going to be exciting....................not!


Specify the max leanth, width and engine capacity of a car then let the manufacturers decide how many cylinders etc they want to build into a car.

They could even have a reduced engine capacity if a car maker wants to use a turbo or supercharger.

Make it exciting not even more boring. Let then employ ground effect, slick tyres etc but get rid of the fly by wire part of it and give control of the car back to the driver.


While I`m having a rant, let them go back to the 12 lap qualifying rules etc .

Having been to roughly 50 grand prix`s all over the world it has a great atmosphere, at times!, but the organisers need to listen!

[andys 900ss]

Listen???

Look at the USA Grand-prix messup??? If theres a problem 'sort-it' not leave it and blaim someone. I blaim the organisers for being so political!!!

er, the bike race wouldnt have got to that level.....

Read the word 'RACE'!!!!

Andy

Andy

[philthy]

Couldn't agree more Andy

I used to watch Nigel Mansell and then Damon Hill - at times edge of the seat stuff - now BORING. If you watch old film clips of James Hunt and earlier you realise how sanitised it has all become.

Why not just have two rules, A standard safe cell for the driver & no dangerous driving - other than that just say " There's the track, 70 laps, pit if you want, First over the line wins & that's it!"

F1 seems to have become the same as certain other institutions - so far up it's own b*m that it's forgotten what it's there for.

[MARTIN H]

Its marginally better than it was a couple of years ago with the occasional good race followed by a few boring ones. Not as good as 15 years or so with Prost, Mansell, Senna etc And nowhere near as good as back in the 70s. The recent rule changes have spoilt a lot of it, qualifying was always good in the past when the drivers had one hour and 12 laps max to set a good time. Was always good to watch the top drivers jumping back into the car with minutes to go to find clear space to get a good position.

Refuelling has spoilt many a good race but also made a few a little more interesting. It was more interesting when the cars all started with full tanks and you got to see how the drivers coped with the changing fuel loads as the race progressed. Likewise it was good to see who made full use of the extra sticky qualifying tyre that were only good for a lap or two. Its all a bit dull now, I still like to get to a race a year but it does not hold anything like the same excitment it used to.

Something needs to be done about it as people are losing interest, the most watchable thing about it this year is the fact that Schumacher is doing so badly!

[MJS]

Originally posted by MARTIN H
Its all a bit dull now, I still like to get to a race a year but it does not hold anything like the same excitment it used to.

Couldn't agree more - this year was the first year I've missed in ages down at Silverstone and I really can't say I missed it at all. Result - I probably never will get back into going regularly.