Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > we are all "Child killer`s"

[Monty]

Now now Ains, calm down mate, you'll burst a blood vessel-by the way I agree with everything you just said.......

John

[Ray]

A pedestrian steps out into the road and gets flattened by a vehicle and the Vehicles to blame at whatever speed thay are doing??? that seems to be the gist of brakes thinking?

Better to stop the nuggit stepping off the pavement in the first place, not try and manage the consequences. There is only one "safe" speed for a vehicle and thats 0mph. It doesn't seem to enter some peeps thinking that the accident they just had might have actually been of their own making or they may have contributed in some small way.

Kids don't feel safe walking to school cos of the hype about killer motorists and assorted other psychopaths.

Roads are dangerous places, pedestrians should not expect to walk across roads willy nilly. A classic example is on local country road, humps, warnings, speed limit to stop peeps getting run over. Doesn't seem top stop the detemined goons from getting mown down though! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a pedestrian tunnel keeps the walkers and the vehicles separate to the benefit of BOTH. The big factor is cost, the tunnel costs too much.

Nurse!.....................................time for me tablets

Ray.

[bike mad]

It's time we all woke up and see what's happening.
The news and all our meddiers show us what they want us to see and most are controlled by the government or have an agenda of there own.
just think has anyone been murdered in the uk today, yes there has but is it front page news? No, you will read about 2 or 3 per year, but last year there was hundreds murdered,
kids die every day, it's sad and as a parent I feel for them, but you should not run a country for the few, or over react,
like there doing over the terrorist, we had the IRA to deal with but kept our rights, and I think the IRA was much more dangerous.
I have not read the MCN yet, but have to say they have done more good than harm in the past,
we have been lied to by government and MCN is the only ones to print it as a lie, and is the voice of use bikers.
The PM would like it if we act us individuals.
dived we fall united we stand.

[Jools]

Originally posted by ducati
and MCN are wondering why sales are droping

Errrr....I don't quite see your point?

The MCN article was taking issue with a road safety charity called BRAKE who have put out an unsubstantiated claim that bikes are more likely to kill children on our roads.

The MCN editorial column seems to me to be a well balanced summary.

[philthy]

Originally posted by Ains.
Nnnnnnghh this kind of stuff makes my blood boil. Immotive clap trap. OK if said biker is one of those prats on a field bike, no crash hat and nowt else charging up the road, then fair do's, jail 'em and chuck the key away, but don't damn well mix all bikers in with said morons.

Any stats that puts children killed by 4x4's with bull-bars at any blo*dy speed against those killed by bikes?

Any stats as to kids knocked down after their stupid blo*dy mothers park up opposite the school on double yellow lines, then open the road side door and let the kids out to run across the road rather than get out the car and escort them across? No I don't suppose so. Seen it done loads of times having parked the car up 250m up the road in a side street and walked it the rest. Lazy sodding mares

I kid you not, outside my wifes school they start turning up 30+ minutes before schools out, so they don't have to get out their blo*dy cars to meet their own kids. They then wave their kids across the road between all the other cars, whilst other mothers drive off from the kerbside looking into the back seat of their car rather than where they are going.

It's an absolute frikkin' miracle that more kids are killed right outside their own school by their stupid blo*dy parents.

Ever seen any coppers just up the road from a school with a speed gun between 8 and 9 AM and 3-4PM? No I haven't seen any either.

Ever seen traffic wardens putting tickets on cars parked on double yellows outside school entrances? No I haven't either.

How many 20mph limits have you seen around town 200m either side of a school?

Ever seen double yellows on the opposite kerb to school entrance not just the entrance side?

Incidentally my youngest was knocked down by a car mounting the kerb doing a U-turn right outside my house.
The council stuck a post by the kerb to stop some other dimwit doing the same. The very next day the post was knocked out the ground by some other wan*er in a car with serious myopia!

About time we started lobbying for stricter application of eyesight tests. Traffic violation you get breathlised, so what about, now sir read that number plate.
And get some of those speed vans off country A-roads and into town.

Ains.

Ains

If you want to stand for Prime Minister I'll vote for you!

Superb post

[doogalman]

Pedestrians should leard to respect the roads.

[bike mad]

think I got the wrong end of the stick, it's BRAKE thats at fault, with their made up statistics thats at fault, and wants a good kicking,
but they will show some parents that have lost there children and get the sympathy vote, and the next thing we know there will be a TY program and we will be public enemy number one,

[Paul James]

[quote]Originally posted by philthy

Originally posted by Ains.
Ever seen any coppers just up the road from a school with a speed gun between 8 and 9 AM and 3-4PM? No I haven't seen any either.



Superb post

No but I've asked the copper who is involved with the local "safety camera" project if they will do one at the school in Towcester and you can apparently request a camera van presence if you feel there is a danger area not being checked. All the same reasons; moronic women stopping without warning, speeding down the middle of the road round a blind bend with their kids and their mates kids on board. Like you I fail to see how so few fatalities take place outside schools. Best I ever saw was a woman driving along in a big 4x4 with loads of kids bouncing around unbelted in the back, she must have been late as she was still eating a bowl of cereal driving along in the middle of town at going to school time !!! Drag 'em out and bullet them in the back of the napper is the only answer.

Don't get me wrong I really really like women :P but I'm at a loss to know how the hell they are supossed to be better, safer drivers than blokes. Lets face it for 1/4 of their adult life most of them are totally without any sort of reason.

[kwikbitch]

Originally posted by Paul James
[ Lets face it for 1/4 of their adult life most of them are totally without any sort of reason.

Do we need a reason???

Thought this thread was about the attack on bikers???
It's not just the women that drop the kids off @ kerb side...fathers are just as big a culprit, yacking on mobile phones taking care of business meetings, whilst carrying two or more kids in the back!
Perhaps if ALL fathers had to take on as much responsibility as the mums...You know, shopping, doing their packed lunches, ironing their clothes, getting them dressed in the morning, checking that they have all their school kit and lunch money, whilst having to hold down a full time job and wondering what to cook him indoors for dinner that evening (which I am sure you all do because you are all such wonderful husbands, fathers and partners)...we wouldn't have women careering round like headless chickens and driving around dangerously.

Can we chuffing get back on topic instead of ****ging off women...I'm afriad you need us...You have no choice...we have no choice

[VanDaMauler]

my heart bleeds...