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[PB]

And, of course very few will now stand up in court against Tony B.Liar and his system because it will most likely mean more points and a heavier fine for daring to point out any inconsistency, fault, or worse in the allegation!

so much for innocent until proven guilty..........much more a case of decidedly guilty unless you're a chief constable, government minister or similarly 'above the law' individual!

[PB]

And, .......

No, no, I'll stop now ...... I'm off to calm down

[PB]

Oh, and the daft French government are busy praising the UK 'solution' to the society threatening ills of speeding as the solution to be adopted in France (ie the proliferation of speed cameras).

And, to my dismay the French are lying down and taking it ............ well, like Englishmen......

off to get my hard hat, then I'm definately out of here.........



[Edited on 10-2-2006 by PB]

[weeveetwin]

Hi Ains

Further to our e-mails, (and with apologies if I misled regarding Zimbabwe):

Having looked further into the vagaries of the UK licensing system, it seems that licence holders from certain 'designated' countries (as well as most of those in the EU) are offered a straight licence swap.

In general, most of the African countries are excluded, but for some reason Zimbabweans are looked upon favourably!

Others 'designated' and so favoured include:

Australia, Barbados, British Virgin Islands, Canada, Faulkland Islands, Hong Kong, Japan, Monaco, New Zealand, Republic of Korea, Singapore, South Africa and Switzerland.

With regard to your accident:
The fact that a Zimbabwean was involved as the third party (and was quite possibly driving on UK roads having had little or no further training) may go some way to explaining its true cause.

Ray makes a good point too. As you know, I'm a driving instructor, and I can say from experience that quite a large percentage of those who come to me for 'beginner's' lessons, are already driving illegally, and are fully capable of handling the car. In fact, some of them (mainly the boys) have been driving some kind of vehicle since they were twelve years old. By the time they're seventeen, they're practically 'old hands' and adept at every manoeuvre including handbrake turns! Moreover, even with those who generally obey the law, after passing their test the high cost of insurance means they are unable to get cover. These, (the boys again, of course), just drive illegally.

So, just be careful out there. It's a jungle..!

[andyb]

Originally posted by Ray
No so sure I'd be worried about his when you hear about the numbers who don't bother with a licence of any sort, not to mention, tax, insurance and MOT.


Cameras can't catch drivers who don't have any of the above unless they are unlucky enough to go past an ANPR camera with the attendant PD mobiles.

The govt have a big fixation on speeding and don't really give a monkeys about all the other mobile offenders on the roads, too difficult to catch unless you put some more officers on the road and that costs money.

Swap some cameras for some PD highway patrollers whose sole task it is to advise or nick the dodge pots that populate our roads, might even reduce the accident rates.

Ray.

Er........have to disagree. I or others like me are persecuting yes persecuting all and sundry with no Ins, vel etc, plus everything else that comes at the same time, regardless of who or where you are from!

Ains, i understand your frustrations, but two wrongs dont necessarily make a right!

[Ains.]

Andyb, Yup, I’m pretty frustrated, not too sure what you mean by two rights/wrong but what ticks me off more about it is, on the one hand we are being told the authorities/govt. are serious about road safety.
Then on the other, we find that the citizens of certain countries; countries with absolutely appalling records of corruption, are allowed to circumvent the very basis of the safety of our roads; that being every road user must take and pass a standardised UK driving test.

I'm surprised MCN or the other mags haven't picked up on it.
Sorry for going on people.

I'll get mi coat.

Ains.

[philthy]

Originally posted by Ains.


Sorry for going on people.


'll get mi coat.

Ains.

Don't worry Ains....It's what us old people do

[749er]

friend of mine from the US had to do a test within one year of arriving,

[andyb]

"not too sure what you mean by two rights/wrong"

I take it you were prosecuted regarding the traffic light incident?.....so your a bit psshed at other goings on.........

[andyb]

"not too sure what you mean by two rights/wrong"

I take it you were prosecuted regarding the traffic light incident?.....so your a bit psshed at other goings on.........