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Old 05-Oct-2006, 17:36   #1
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chinese whispers time........just spoke to a US ducati dealership thats seen the new bike,........." yes its beautifull looking" he said," but the most impressive thing is that its supposed to be 155bhp at the crank in bip model and 40 lbs lighter than the 999 !!!!!!!Gulp


lets just watch the values of 999 drop like a stone now as everyone tries to trade-in for the new model.

Well any dealer who's livelihood is based on Ducati would say that.

As for 999 prices dropping like a stone - they're at rock bottom anyway and will probably be a bargain for many.

Finally - two points of view, one from a journo friend and the other through Ducati directly states on the one hand impressive power but on the other UJM looks - will that tempt those that have bought their R1s and Gixxers back to the fold - time will tell but if it does look like a UJM best stick to our 99Xs then.

At the end of the day there's lots of speculation, probably best wait for the genuine tune from the organ grinder not the grunts from the monkeys and rumour-mongers. Whichever way up it won't better the 'Sedici
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Old 06-Oct-2006, 00:46   #2
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What is a UJM?

Ultimate J******* machine?
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Old 06-Oct-2006, 01:40   #3
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Well any dealer who's livelihood is based on Ducati would say that.

As for 999 prices dropping like a stone - they're at rock bottom anyway and will probably be a bargain for many.

Finally - two points of view, one from a journo friend and the other through Ducati directly states on the one hand impressive power but on the other UJM looks - will that tempt those that have bought their R1s and Gixxers back to the fold - time will tell but if it does look like a UJM best stick to our 99Xs then.

At the end of the day there's lots of speculation, probably best wait for the genuine tune from the organ grinder not the grunts from the monkeys and rumour-mongers. Whichever way up it won't better the 'Sedici

Well said,

NO dealers have seen the new bike yet, I am in regular contact with the guys at a main Ducati store in the US and they have had no more info than the european dealers.

With photos flying round the world in seconds nowadays, do you think that if there was a 1098 in the USA being shown arround it would stay covered up???

Its just a case of "you heard it here first"

Whatever will be, will be.

But I am looking forward to the 1098 (as a dealer whos livelihood depends on it!)

I'm off to Milan to see it on the 12th. cant wait!!!! photos will be sent!


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Old 06-Oct-2006, 09:25   #4
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[quote=wilf]Well said,

NO dealers have seen the new bike yet, I am in regular contact with the guys at a main Ducati store in the US and they have had no more info than the european dealers.

With photos flying round the world in seconds nowadays, do you think that if there was a 1098 in the USA being shown arround it would stay covered up???

Its just a case of "you heard it here first"

Whatever will be, will be.

But I am looking forward to the 1098 (as a dealer whos livelihood depends on it!)


Lets simply look at the facts;

1.I'm only repeating what a principal at a ducati dealer in Texas TOLD me.
2.There,s no mention of the bike being in the USA,lets assume that he may have seen this in......Italy.
3.Without naming names,I've spoke to a ducati dealer in this country who says he's seen the bike (in Italy), so some people are getting previews......unless their telling porkies.


Call me sinical, but the introduction of a new model,if its to be belived about the performance,weight reduction and the aesthetics will create high demand.....this will only be good stick to be used by dealers to tell us how "they canrn't give us good money for our 999/749". Its happened before.
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Old 06-Oct-2006, 09:50   #5
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I'm so looking forward to being able to buy a cheap 999
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Old 13-Oct-2006, 15:15   #6
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Bottem line, the 999 great technology, great engine etc, aweful front end. Lets face it, the 1098 will basically set out to cure all the things which people hated about the 999 looks wise, as well as the obvious power increase, weight reduction etc. The only reason i bought a 996 is because the way the 999 looked, ****, but yeahm each to their own. Iam also going to Milan and have already ordered a 1098S, I have faith Ducati will get things right this time.

This is nothing to do with having 'too much money' or wanted something that will outperform me, it's because I've had to wait years for the 998 replacement, the 1098. The 999 was'nt a replacement, just a blip. Hundreds of 916, 996, 998 owners cannot be wrong.

999 room 101 please.
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The 999/749 aesthetics have slowly evolved since the bikes launch.
Take an objective view of the 2006 999 as it is now and you will see that Ducati have listened to their critics and 'adjusted' its looks.
I have had a 748 , 2 * 996's and latterly a 749R.
The 999 looks did take a couple of years to grow on me (and I do think the 749R looks better than any other **9 model)...but I do think that 999 detractors made their minds up on day 1 and will not be swayed.
Its an old tune now......if you like them..you like them...if you don't ..you don't.
Lets see what Milan brings......I fancy a 1098 to keep the 749R company.
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This is probably a stupid question but is the 1098 actually a 1200, if not if seems odd that the new model will be 100cc less that the future 1200 WSB limit
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This is probably a stupid question but is the 1098 actually a 1200, if not if seems odd that the new model will be 100cc less that the future 1200 WSB limit

1098 will be 1099 cc, the R model, expected in 2008 (in time for the new WSB rules) will possibly be 1200 cc


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it's because I've had to wait years for the 998 replacement, the 1098. The 999 was'nt a replacement, just a blip. Hundreds of 916, 996, 998 owners cannot be wrong.

999 room 101 please.

the new replace the old, you like them or you dont. there is no other way of looking at it apart from straight.

what I can gaurantee is that some 916 owners will be running down their checklist of

twin exhaust pipes
single sided swing arm
side by side headlights

and whatever else, and despite ticking all the boxes they will be disappointed because its not their "iconic" 916. Only then will they realise design does not come rfom a checklist and maybe understand why the 999 is a great design, whether they like the style or not

time will tell
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