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Old 13-Nov-2009, 22:43
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What sort of % leak would be acceptable ?, should you be trying to get it down to 5 - 10% on a 600, also what sort of compression should there be ?

Good luck fitting the 2in1.

When I originally checked my 620 a few months ago I got approximately 3% leakage on each cylinder when pressurised to 60psi
I was told if its below 8% not to worry, above that and you have hissing in either the inlets of exhasut ports then its worth lapping the valves in.
If its hissing through the crankcase breather then consider new rings.

Hopefully fitting the 2 into 1 will be down to good design and craftsmanship and not luck, Its the harness I need the luck for


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Old 14-Nov-2009, 23:37
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Its the harness I need the luck for


How right I was
Spent all day finishing off the harness and fitting it to the bike, by lunch time I had it all in place and flicking the Ignition Toggle switch resulted in the clocks going through the usual checks and then the immobiliser light going out.
But after that it was all down hill, I just couldn't get the Starter Solinoid to pull in. The bike was in neutral with the Green neutral light on, the wire fron pin 38 of the body connector on the ECU that normally goes to the sidestand was connected to Earth to over ride the interlock. The operation of the RH switch gear was checked and checked out as it should.

I have previously checked the ECU/Clocks/Transponder key on my S2R and they worked fine, the bike ran all be it a bit rough (no suprise there)

The Harness came from a breakers with damage to a dozen wires or so including 3 or 4 going to the clocks, but I replaced these and fitted a new connector to the Air temp/MAP sensor.
And the Clocks/ECU set up came from the states and maybe from a later model.
So currently the Bike powers up, fuel pump primes but nothing happens when the start button is pushed.

I maybe looking for a broken wire within the loom or a compatability issue between a later ECU and a early harness, although the only difference I can make out is the later bikes using a clutch switch that goes to pin 33 on the ECU body connector to allow you to start the bike when its in gear when pulling the clutch in. I know my S2R needs its lights on to run but I've tried this by putting 12V on to pin 2 of the clocks connector but it hasn't sorted the starting problems although the clocks do light upnicely.

Will see if I can get any futher with it tomorrow, may even fit the setup back on to the S2R just to check all the units are still working.


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Old 15-Nov-2009, 09:43
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Just put the ECU, Dash and Ignition Key on my 2006 S2R 800 and that started up OK. so it looks like there is an issue with the harness.

Anybody got a wiring diagram for a 2002 M620Sie that they could post up or point me in the direction of as I only have a wiring diagram for the 2005 model.
There may be another differnce in the two that i'm not aware of


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Old 15-Nov-2009, 09:53
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Kev, you could just as easily bypass the ecu and wire the starter circuit conventionally.
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Old 15-Nov-2009, 10:03
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Just put the ECU, Dash and Ignition Key on my 2006 S2R 800 and that started up OK. so it looks like there is an issue with the harness.

Anybody got a wiring diagram for a 2002 M620Sie that they could post up or point me in the direction of as I only have a wiring diagram for the 2005 model.
There may be another differnce in the two that i'm not aware of

They are different found that out with Rattlers dd bike when he sent his loom to Track Electrics, the Haynes Manuel I have has 3 or 4 different looms which look pretty much the same until you look at the ecu connections.
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Old 16-Nov-2009, 09:47
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Just put the ECU, Dash and Ignition Key on my 2006 S2R 800 and that started up OK. so it looks like there is an issue with the harness.

Anybody got a wiring diagram for a 2002 M620Sie that they could post up or point me in the direction of as I only have a wiring diagram for the 2005 model.
There may be another differnce in the two that i'm not aware of

Kev,

I've got a workshop manual with wiring diagrams for a 2002 model if you still need info?

Paul


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