Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > schuey Retires ( will there ever be another one)?

[MJS]

Originally Posted by jeff st4s

I class Pedrosa in the same camp as Michael, that automatic machine that you cannot stop.
Surely the whole idea of sport is to watch a competition, the years when Schuey walked away with it, as there was no challenge was really boring.
I was a fan for years then stopped because it became just too boring.
Prost/Senna, Hakkinen/Schuey, fantastic to watch complete opposites, intense and exciting.
I know he can only race what's put in front of him, but for me the whole idea is to watch some sort of duel, not history being made as Michaal walks to another championship, as no one has a package to challenge.
This year is the only time I've actually wanted him to win, simply because he has been the underdog and really wanted to see what he can do when he was pushed, I do hope he wins it.
Alonso would not have won last year if the Ferrari was not so cr*p.
I think the real sad part of Michaels era is he has had no real consistant challengers, therefore his victories look slightly hollow.

Now I can agree with your sentiments. I watched for years, but then turned off at roughly the same time, because the racing became dull. The years when Mansell, Senna, Prost and Piquet slugged it out, late 80s etc were brilliant.

But surely any driver/teams job is to do the best possible job - it can't be the fault of Michael or Ferrari that no-one else managed to challenge them for a period of a few years.

The idea of sport is indeed to watch a competition - but not from a competitor's point of view - to a competitor (certainly at world championship level), it's about winning.

For what it's worth, I'd like to see a single tyre manufacturer, Ferrari lost last year because Bridgestone weren't as good as Michelin. I'd like to see the same in GP - Bridgestone turn up for a weekend with good tyres, Loris goes well, the weeks they get it wrong, he struggles. Michelin on the other hand are always pretty consistent.. No-one really knows how fast the Loris/Ducati package really is, and how much of it is down to the tyres.

[doogalman]

Originally Posted by Urban996

it can't be the fault of Michael or Ferrari that no-one else managed to challenge them for a period of a few years.

Can we bring in the other "Mr Personality here" ? Michael Doohan. Also lacked any consistant competition on the same level.

[chillo]

he is a complete ****

no denying he is a talented driver, but straight out of the school of bad sportsmen. Which pains me to admit he did liven up a very boring race series with his 'antics'

[Twinfan]

How can 7 world titles be "hollow victories" against poor competition?

[Ray]

Can't argue with what it says in the history books. The square jawed one has never had a good relationship with the UK media, specialist or otherwise. Seen as the enemy by many

He has been 100% dedicated to his chosen sport for a long time.

Ever hear him ****ging the team off in public?

The most amusing thing about yesterday was Flavio's Bs Response when asked if Schumacher M will be missed, maybe not the best time to ask with all the apparent political shennanigans going on to ensure 2006 is title number 8

Can't really see anyone beating his record for a good while, Now Jacque F Villeneuve has gone only Alonso will have won a championship in the 2007 season.

Ray.

[MJS]

Originally Posted by doogalman

Can we bring in the other "Mr Personality here" ? Michael Doohan. Also lacked any consistant competition on the same level.

Isn't it a case that anyone who is head and shoulders above his peers will always appear to lack any consistant competition? The same could be said of Rossi - who has really challenged him? Biaggi? Gibernau? Despite the sometimes lack of pace of the Yamaha this season, he'd still be doing very nicely. If it wasn't for a tyre failure in China, an off in practice at Assen, and 2 engine failures (particularly Le Mans where it was in the bag), he'd be well on course for another title.

It's just pure class that sets these people apart...

[doogalman]

They are all great in my eyes. Full respect to them all. However if someone waves flags and dresses up in fancy dress they have personality. They all get labelled boring otherwise. But by all accounts Doohan was a bit of a chacacter away from the track. Even recently in the news for brawling.
For me the fact that they beat all comers is enough for me . Ask Dom.

[jeff st4s]

Originally Posted by doogalman

For me the fact that they beat all comers is enough for me . Ask Dom.

Is that a vicious rumour?

[jeff st4s]

Originally Posted by doogalman

They all get labelled otherwise.

Your gonna get a label soon, it's for doing less work than me and being here too much.

[749er]

no doubt about it a great driver, shown not only in his wins but with heroics like taking second place when driving 40laps with only 5th gear.

Pity he had to ruin his reputation with several acts of bad sportsmanship, and that is putting it politely