Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > Police clamping down on speeding evaders

[749er]

Originally Posted by Urban996

I seem to remember Alex Ferguson getting off driving down the hard-shoulder of a motorway traffic jam on the excuse that he had the trots and needed to get to a toilet.... can't somehow see anyone else getting away with that one!

oh I don't know! I know plenty more people who are full of *****e

[749er]

on a more serious note the anti speeding lobby would tell you that even if you are the only fatality, it costs the taxpayer about £750,000 to clean up and sort out your death.

[twpd]

Originally Posted by 749er

on a more serious note the anti speeding lobby would tell you that even if you are the only fatality, it costs the taxpayer about £750,000 to clean up and sort out your death.

Whilst neatly avoiding telling us how much other deaths cost us.

[andyb]

Originally Posted by twpd

Whilst neatly avoiding telling us how much other deaths cost us.

Like what, War? well we know that costs millons......

It was my understanding the figure for road deaths was over a million as well

[twpd]

Originally Posted by andyb

Like what, War? well we know that costs millons......

It was my understanding the figure for road deaths was over a million as well

Any number of deaths - assaults, smoking, pollution, deaths by falling down the station stairs, errr... deaths caused by the police wrongly shooting innocent people in "anti-terrorist operations". Undoubtedly the beancounters know the cost of all these.

It doesn't matter, again it's misleading to blankly quote a cost without a meaningful comparison. I personally doubt that cost - it's probably dreamt up using some very simple calculation with a whole host of assumptions being made.

As for wars...you underestimate the costs by an order of magnitude 1000's. It's billions - not millions. Like I said - perspective is required and the authorities don't seem to have it.

[andyb]

Well Assaults or murders run into the millions, primary smoking as far as im concerned shouldnt cost us a penny. You know the risks is it that difficult?
Secondary or passive smoking is a different thing.

Yes the London bombings will/have cost millions!

I believe there is a reputable study that has been done on the financial cost of a road death, and it does run into a million. Ill see if i can find it.

[Ray]

Uk figures for 2004

Deaths and injuries on the road

3,221 people were killed in road accidents in 2004
31,130 were seriously injured
246,489 were slightly injured
Taken from www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk


Driving for work

Over one third of all road traffic accidents, about 1,000 deaths a year, involve someone who is at work at the time

Ban the use of the roads for work purposes. The govt needs to act NOW!!

Be tough on work and tough on the causes of work, to reduce the deaths???clearly absurd

Don't confuse cause and effect, and deal with the cause.


Motorcyclists

585 motorcyclists were killed in road accidents in 2004
6,063 were seriously injured
Motorcyclists represent 1% of traffic but represent 19% of deaths and serious injuries
Motorcycle riders are over 40 times more likely to be killed than car drivers

Now you can see why motorcyles are targetted, tough on motorcyclists and tough on the causes or motorcycling, get bikes off the road, problem gone, simple thinking from simple people who have no concept of the idea of cause and effect.

NURSE!!!!!!!!!!!! me tablets


Ray

[aka.eric]

Laws are written down and applied by courts in a pedantic way for everybodys protection.There wouldnt be any "loop-holes" if the police/CPS did their job properly in the first place.

[twpd]

Originally Posted by andyb

Well Assaults or murders run into the millions, primary smoking as far as im concerned shouldnt cost us a penny. You know the risks is it that difficult?

Presumably you mean treatment should be witheld from smokers? If you do mean that then how about unhealthy eaters, those who don't exercise enough, drug users, alcoholics....where does it stop? How about poor people who can't afford a decent diet?

You know that just isn't practical and isn't fair - it smacks of the extreme nanny state. The authorities forget who they serve.

I'll go so far as to say that the level of deaths we have on the roads is tolerable/acceptable when you consider we have about 20 million vehicles on the roads...3000-4000 deaths per year is a drop in the ocean compared to deaths from other causes which we do little to address. The proportion of those that are killed directly through speeding is even smaller again, yet a huge amount of resources is thrown at the subject. It doesn't make sense.

[twpd]

Good post Ray. I don't know if you have the figures but, I believe somewhere in the region of 10,000 people die each year in domestic accidents.