Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > Any builders here? Need to remove an internal wall

[TP]

Originally posted by Monty
'Would you need to pre-crush the cans to gain more strength?'-of course you would Tony you silly boy, but it's got nothing to do with gaining strength-crushed beercans take up much less room, ergo you will need more of them-therefore loads more drinking-result. Hic!

John

As ever I bow to your experience.

All praise Monty.

[Desmondo]

Originally posted by uncledunnie
Desmondo,

the direction of the floor joists will dictate the method..... ONLY REALLY USEFUL POST IN THIS ENTIRE THREAD ..... I think thats about it - any questions let me know.

Bob

Cheers Bobby boy, all makes sense to me. I've already got the carpet up upstairs and the floorboards do run parallel to the wall so looks like solution no.1 is the way to go. I'll print it out and have a proper read through and see how I go. I'll get back to you if I need any further info. Cheers again

Wow, this club is so damn cool

[Jon]

I would just add one item to uncledunnie's post. Rather than pack the rsj up with slate, get two additional props. cut your two opening at each end about the depth of the steel,which will be in the region of 8" depending on the span, plus a further 6". After you have put the steel in place, jack it uo with the aditional props. The chances are is that you will be putting the steel betweem a internal wall and an external wall. The int wall you can get a 2 x piece's of plywood about 12-14" x 9" drill two holes in each.
With the aid of someone get them to hold the plywood at the other side of the opening while you hold the ply underneath the steel. At the same time push a lenght of steel wire through the holes so theat it goes throught one piece and back throught to the other. Twist them to gether now, nice and tight. All you have to do now is poor liquid concrete into the viod that you have just created. You can use rapid cement/ sharp sand and pea gravel for a nice compact sulution. Keep tapping the sides to help it settle and get rid of air pockets. With the other side, if its a 9" wall, you only need to put plywood on the inside. If it's a cavity wall, do the same thing as previous, just remembering to cut the plywood so that you can position it inside the cavity. With this method, you can eliminate any chance of the packingl slipping out or crushing. Please make sure you have the pywood tight up against the underside of the steel.Make sure you get the mix right. I part cement / 2 parts sharp sand / 4 parts pea gravel and again filled to the very to, even letting it spill over.

[Edited on 19-11-2004 by Jon]

[WeeJohnyB]

STOP STOP STOP

er...funny lines etc above, but a risk assesment might be in order here.

Got the t shirt for this from a previous house. Get a 'professionals' opinion which is free from any builder - just ask for an estimate and listen to what they have to say.

If it is, whatever you do, don't take the original option of hammer, pizza and beer, unless you never want to walk upstairs again.

Don't skip the building regs bit either - massive false economy. You will sell the house at some stage and when you do, they will ask for the regs and 'I lost them down the back of the old settee' won't wash.

If you really are going to attempt to DIY, get someone in who knows what they're doing. Sound advise from Uncle and Jon et al, but doing it is another matter.

Excellent use of the word 'flange'.

WeeJohnyB

[Redruth]

Do people actually take advice from frogs? When are u going to lose that muppet avatar WJB?

And you have no right to sound so sensible when clearly you are a frog!

Desmondo, do your thing - what's the worst that can happen?

[BDG]

Best thread of the day by far.

I looked at the title earlier and thought Naw! until now.

Who would of thought knocking a wall down would be so interesting/funny or am i just a bit the worse for wear.

I'm off to ring Changing Rooms.

Keep it coming.

[Edited on 20-11-2004 by BDG]

[guest1]

Or move house to Desmondos Nan's.

[Edited on 21-11-2004 by guest1]

[Mark]

Stick of TNT, job done in 1 second flat!

[dave w]

Get flanker in.....he is the master brick layer

[Mark]

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