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Old 25-Nov-2005, 13:58
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i really am going off on a tangent here but i think you should be able to, and i think we are going that way. is it suffolk health authority who are now not giving hip and knee replacements to fat people?

No, like every other health authority they treat people on the basis of clinical need. What they do is to ask fat people to try losing weight before their operation and defer their operation to give them chance to lose the required weight. They do this for very good reasons.

Surgery is far less complex and the outcome is likely to be much more successful
Recovery and rehabilitation is much quicker because people are fitter and don't need to put as much weight on new joints
The long term viability of the replacement joint is much improved

So, if the fat people lose weight before their op, by definition they're not as fat as the threshold weight.

If someone really needed the op and couldn't lose weight they'd still have the op
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Old 25-Nov-2005, 14:13
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BBC news have just announced that Georgie Best has passed away


Gods speed my boy RIP
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Old 25-Nov-2005, 14:15
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He has just lost the fight, what a way for an amazing talant to leave this world. I just hope the publicity of his illness makes people think twice and take action if they find themselves in a similar situation due to excessive drinking.
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Old 25-Nov-2005, 14:19
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some peolpe on here are complete arses!!

firstly, Best deserved his transplant as much as anyone else, all those who complain, have you contributed as much as he did to society, newspaper columns, creating jobs, entertainment...the list goes on?!

secondly, and a personal gripe, the 'fat' person stuff is usually based on that crap measurement of BMI...think TP put something up about this a while ago. Also, there are conditions, belive it or not, which canot be treated with more excercise and less food...FACT. and do you not think that, if it were as easy as eating balanced diets and a bit of excercise, there would be no-one overweight! WAKE UP!!

Jools - spot on with the comment re risks.

my view is simple - contribute to the country, the economy and the health service and you should get all you can back - and for once I will be rude and say those who disagree are wrong, plain and simple.

I wont look at this post again because know I will react to any comments added in response and I would not like to lose some of the respect & freindly approach I have for some DSCers.

RIP George Best, a legend in more than 1 way
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Old 25-Nov-2005, 14:33
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His brave son is speaking to the media right now, what a wonderful dignified stance given the media farce that has surrounded this. NO way should obituaries been out before his death, why is that some idiots in this world think that have ownership of people in the public eye.

George's father has just asked the press to leave them in peace.
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Old 25-Nov-2005, 21:04
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I have just been watching some old footage of George Best on the pitch. Even though having no particular interest in the game I was absoloutely mesmerised watching him literally run rings around the other players.

Many geniuses seem to have serious flaws, as if it is natures way of counterbalancing their gifts.

With George , sadly it was booze that killed him. It was his passion. Should he have been given a new liver?..... Probably not, but that was the decision of his doctors.

Should people who have replacement organs due to a motorcycle crash have their motorcycle licenses revoked?

The ironic part of this is he died the day after extended drinking hours were brought in. I imagine that there will be far more people needing new livers in the future as a result of the new laws.

R.I.P. George. You were obviously '' A bit of a lad ''
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Old 25-Nov-2005, 22:55
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A hero once, but that was a long time ago. He died as nothing more than just another alcoholic, he was given a second chance which is more than joe public would have got, sorry but no respect for someone that is on a mission of self destruction with no care what so ever of the affect it has on loved ones. And yes, before i get shot down for my opinion i do know what im talking about!!!
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Old 25-Nov-2005, 23:15
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Here here except he was never my hero

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Old 25-Nov-2005, 23:36
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Well,having read all the above I wonder, will we learn any thing from this, I doubt it. All these so called hero's even now are mostly **** heads, payed too much money and we hear about them in the media all the time . How many more George Best's will we read about in 10/15 years, how long will we remember until the next one comes along. Personally, watching the man kick a ball about I found entertaining but thats all he did , there are other that have done more for mankind than George Best . George has gone his family have to suffer the backlash of his death, its them I feel sorry for 4D



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Old 26-Nov-2005, 00:51
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great footballer could have been even greater if the old play boy hadent have surfaced. dam waist of a good liver though george
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