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[skidlids]

Originally posted by domski
How about a DD bike in undercoat?

We didn't have one this year did we?

Not quite a DD bike but Dallas had his ZX10R in primer at various race venues this year, I think it may have been in it at Castle Combe if not it certainly was by the time he rebuilt it following his off at Quarry

[ericthered40]

I don't know yet

[AK]

Originally posted by domski
I think AK managed to do it alright.

Louigi did it using 'bits & pieces' lying around

so did AK

620 engine (with holes in) + 750ie injectors (same as 620) + loom off of something else + no airbox + cdi from sumfing else again etc etc

620 engine from breaker + loom off something else (750ss) airbox from something else + powercommander he had on the shelf that was going onto the tri-colour 900.
Was a nightmare getting it all mapped out for the bike, on the dyno, to check it was all 'talking' to each other component

It was done with stuff Rich already had in his second-hand parts section, coz neither of us had the cash to do it 'expensively'.

same here - labour was the most 'extensive' for AK

I honestly feel there must be something not 100% right in the recipe used, coz it wasn't down on power coz Rich is stupid. His other bikes are tip top kit. It just didn't work out.

mmm - should have looked at one part

I would think if you can find a 620 and all the 620 bits to go with it, it should be alright.

..

its certainly the easiest way...

but transplants can be done, and now AK knows what does/doesnt work, it wont take so long on the next one.....

edited to add: also tank, with pump came from the same breaker that Louigi got his 620 from - they came from the same broken bike as his!
Luckily Andy J repaired the tank, so it was re-usable again : cost £cheap all inc postage



[Edited on 13-11-2005 by AK and CK]

[domski]

OK OK OK!!!!!

So AK and Louigi did it the same way, blimey woman, I don't know EVERYTHING do I - at least I said he got it working.

:P

Now, what you doing on the computer? All the washing done is it?

[AK]

roast dinner cooked: check (CK)
dinner eaten: check (both)
bottle of wine consumed: check (both)
washing up done: check (AK)
top gear watched: check (both)
clothes all washed :check


reading about 'bananas' on the DSC site: still in progress:P

[clockwork orange]

Originally posted by Dseered
Has your names changed around ?
CK & AK
AK & CK

Mmmm - we wondered about that......

[couchcommando]

Dom, why not run a 583 with a big bore kit in the 620 class ? Surely that would keep everyone happy ?

On a personal level I wasn't allowed in the 583 class and I have raced less than you and don't hold a National Licence. Had I have been allowed to race a 583 I could have saved myself over £3k in bike costs.

[Edited on 13-11-2005 by couchcommando]

[Tonio600]

Message original : domski
Right then folks, it would appear that there could be an opening for me to ride in DD next year but in Class B.

I cannot afford a 620 (see previous thread).

Now, I don't want to **** on anyone's chips, or have people upset coz "Dom is too experienced" etc etc

So, I am asking for the 583 riders opinions on this, as it will only affect you (or maybe not as my vast experience showed this season).

Basically, I have to let the RC know if I would like to be put forward to race in 583, and they will have the final say, but as I wouldn't be racing against them, I wanted your approval first.

I don't want people to say "Yeah, come and do 583" and then get arsey if I do well. So be honest!!

I'll happily do CB500 without upsetting any 'novices' and with no hard feelings.

Of course you're welcome to race with us mate. Personally I do it for real fun, so I won't get pi$$ed or anything if you do well

[domski]

Originally posted by couchcommando
Dom, why not run a 583 with a big bore kit in the 620 class ? Surely that would keep everyone happy ?

I want to be competitive, and to be competitive in 620, you need a 620 - no question.

It was also proven this year, that fitting a big bore kit is a complete waste of money.

[skidlids]

A 583 with a bore kit still only makes 51 to 52 bhp not exactly competitive with a 620i, then there is the better throttle response from the injected bikes plus a fair bit higher rev range and on top of that some 620s have 6 gears.
I always though a good option for 2006 would to allow class A bikes with a 583 based engine taken out to 675 and allow some head and cam work but possibly still running on standard CV carbs be allowed to run against the 620s.
I 'm buying Glyns 675 kit off him for my old engine and if I have the time and spare cash I will probably have a look at doing something with the heads to see what a bit of porting and flowing does for them.