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[uncledunnie]

"As for race conditions, if they are picked we'll all be in the same boat and finding out just how quickly they will warm up i guess."

Agreed, but if a tyre with equivalent levels of wet/dry grip is available that warms up quicker and achieves higher levels of grip sooner that will be my first choice.

[ali]

I went through a set last season on my 900 and (trying to be completely objective) they only let go unpredictably once (club corner - silverstone - damp).

At TA3 (rocky) they behaved very reasonably on a nightmare track, and I was able to lay down full power on about 50% of the corners, the only exceptions being the two corners everyone came off of.

In the dry they've been exceptional, probably more in terms of profile and stability rather than outright grip. The only time they've broken away was on a baking hot day Snetterton under heavy rear braking on the last lap of a hot session. I've watched plenty of folk bail on the first lap of TDs last year on a variety of tyres, but never felt like the next would be me!

I've never tried any bridgestones, but I have had Dunlops 207s and they didn't agree with me at all. I'll be up at Cadwell this weekend on new diablos as well so you should get plenty of feedback next week...

Cheers,

Ali

[fil2]

Originally posted by uncledunnie
Phil,

I wasn't pushing it, acc or braking, you may well find that under those conditions they do warm up pretty well.

I know that if they were a new set I was testing I would be cleaning off the release agent before running them and probably giving them a good old scuff up aswell.

Would be nice to hear of your experiences after practicing in the right environment this weekend.

I usaully run warmers on track days but will not this weekend to get a good idea of the tyre.............and i will deffo be scruffing em up a little b4 hand..

will let u know how i go

Phil

[fil2]

Originally posted by uncledunnie
"As for race conditions, if they are picked we'll all be in the same boat and finding out just how quickly they will warm up i guess."

Agreed, but if a tyre with equivalent levels of wet/dry grip is available that warms up quicker and achieves higher levels of grip sooner that will be my first choice.

And mine......

Phil

[chicken]

I'll be at the back, see what kind of angle everyone gets before it lets go and then adding 35 degrees to it

(yes, I know that means I''ll go straight ahead )

[AK]

Keeping fingers X'd here for 090's - held really well on mixed weather trackday - great in the wet, no probs either in dry.

Alan

footnote from C: maybe he wasnt going fast enough!!!

[domski]

Last season the CB500 guys got their 090's for £110 a pair I believe, so they are cheap.

My own personal opinion having raced on them for 16 rounds, approx 48 x 20 min sessions plus some testing, is that they are not very good in the wet. They are very good in the dry, but if you're running in the front 6 or so (depending on how far the top 6 are spread out of course) you'll be looking a set every meeting.

In 1998, when I were a lad, at Brands Hatch free practice, I used the same set from the previous round at Cadwell I think, anyway, they slid all over the place and I was 13th quickest. Queue a phone call to my sponsor, and a new set was purchased for qualifying... I knocked 3 seconds off my time and qualified 3rd, pretty much where I had done all year.

All I'm saying is, that the 090's will be great for most people, but not in the wet. And expensive if anyone actually wants to try and win the championship, as they go off quickly.

A CB500 makes only 50-52bhp.

A 675 Duke will make around 65-70bhp.

I know which will destroy a tyre quicker.

Just my tuppence, and for some racer experience on the tyre.

I also used them for a meeting in 2003, the new 090's, so it's not like you can say the 090's were different in 1998 and 1999.

[Mark - H M Tyres]

Iwould say you should get 2/3 meetings per set regardless of make .All tyres will go off as they go through heat cycles no matter what tread remains.
As racing in the wet is a concern is it agreed that you will not use wett tyres.I know this is another cost but it may save alot more expence from crash damage.A set could last all season.

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Mark Wright Holbeach M/C Tyres

[Rattler]

Originally posted by Mark - H M Tyres
Iwould say you should get 2/3 meetings per set regardless of make .All tyres will go off as they go through heat cycles no matter what tread remains.
As racing in the wet is a concern is it agreed that you will not use wett tyres.I know this is another cost but it may save alot more expence from crash damage.A set could last all season.

ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CALL ME O7733 324640 /01406 426489

Mark Wright Holbeach M/C Tyres

Yer but, no but, yer but - we're not gonna crash!!!!!:lol :

[domski]

I think (cue the cringing)...

Seeing as most of the entrants seem to be spending freely on their brand new bikes, Ohlins, big bores etc

What diff will it make to spend £200 on a set of wets, which, like Mark says, will last all year. (Something I agree with )

Then we can use a proper sticky tyre in the dry.

Mark, can you change 30+ pairs of tyres in 10 mins?