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[andyb]

Originally Posted by Henners

... Andy's the type of policeman you hope you meet when you're really in the s h i t

Only if you laugh with me at my constructive criticism..........

[Davieravie]

I like this thread........Im off to the "Question Time" forum for a looksee!

[Davieravie]

Originally Posted by Henners

... Andy's the type of policeman you hope you meet when you're really in the s h i t

Ahhhhh, backhanders....eh???

[philthy]

Originally Posted by Urban996

I find it terribly sad when any innocent person going about their daily routine is killed, but why exactly is it so special when it's a police offer? No offence, but where is the difference? Surely murder is murder is murder? Why is it that Police jump on it when it's 'one of their own'?

Second question - under what circumstances can it ever be right to take another human life? What gives the State the right to take another human life? There are plenty of miscarriages of justice, a pardon and release from prison is small recompense for a miscarriage of justice, but it's a hell of a lot easier to release someone from prison and say 'sorry' than it is to bring them back from the dead.

Of course it's different.

Society expects a police officer to put his or her life on the line for YOU and your family.

Most of us would rather that the average policeman on shift did not carry a firearm when dealing with criminals. That means that we expect them on occasion to face up to someone with a firearm without any real defence except the uniform.

If the criminal serves say 7-10 years max for murdering the police officer, then quite frankly he may as well put the officer into a bodybag and take his chance. If he thinks he will hang then he just might give up his weapon. And quite frankly if he still goes ahead and kills the officer then he should forfeit his life in return.

And that should go for the whole gang involved, not just the one who pulls the trigger. Gun crime is endemic and the only way we will put a brake on it is to show criminals that the ordinary man in the street is in charge and not the bully with a gun in his hand.

I'm sorry Urban but it's people with liberal attitudes who have allowed the criminal to take over from the man in the street, and it's about time that we redressed the balance.

[Henners]

Originally posted by Davieravie
Ahhhhh, backhanders....eh???

... it's just that we share underwear, I know you'll keep it quiet Davie

[Davieravie]

Originally Posted by philthy

Of course it's different.

Society expects a police officer to put his or her life on the line for YOU and your family.

Most of us would rather that the average policeman on shift did not carry a firearm when dealing with criminals. That means that we expect them on occasion to face up to someone with a firearm without any real defence except the uniform.

If the criminal serves say 7-10 years max for murdering the police officer, then quite frankly he may as well put the officer into a bodybag and take his chance. If he thinks he will hang then he just might give up his weapon. And quite frankly if he still goes ahead and kills the officer then he should forfeit his life in return.

And that should go for the whole gang involved, not just the one who pulls the trigger. Gun crime is endemic and the only way we will put a brake on it is to show criminals that the ordinary man in the street is in charge and not the bully with a gun in his hand.

I'm sorry Urban but it's people with liberal attitudes who have allowed the criminal to take over from the man in the street, and it's about time that we redressed the balance.

Lots of people put their lives on the line every day, not just Police........
When is the last time you saw a real gun on the streets carried by a insane,muderous criminal? Me thinks you are reading the Sun/Daily Express too much Phil........scaremongering its what its all about....its the Culture of Fear thats getting put across in the media these days........

[Davieravie]

Originally Posted by Henners

... it's just that we share underwear, I know you'll keep it quiet Davie

I'll try!

[Henners]

I had a FAC (Fire Arms Certificate) prior to Dunblaine - used to shoot at Bisley each year. Then Labour came to power and banned law abiding citizens from having guns. Where are we now? 3 times more guns and gun crime in the UK than was ever experience prior to 1997. When you make guns illegal only the criminals will have them.

I don't believe in capital punishment - sparing a murderer's life proves one thing, we have more humanity, compassion and intelligent thought than they!

However, once convicted it should be life for a life in the sense that they should spend the rest of their lives in abject misery being reminded of and being made to atone for what they have done.

That's where your problem is - the justice and penal system is too soft ... they should be transported, like the old days, to break rocks and drink Fosters in Australia!

[Davieravie]

Originally Posted by everton

I don't believe in capital punishment - sparing a murderer's life proves one thing, we have more humanity, compassion and intelligent thought than they!

However, once convicted it should be life for a life in the sense that they should spend the rest of their lives in abject misery being reminded of and being made to atone for what they have done.

That's where your problem is - the justice and penal system is too soft ... they should be transported, like the old days, to break rocks and drink Fosters in Australia!

Naw..XXXX instead!