Ducati Sporting Club UK > General > Idle Chat > Is Henners Banned from posting ?

[Rally]

Originally Posted by VanDaMauler

What a load of childish bollox...

Which bit Van? Henners being moderated or the membership finding it unpalatable?

[VanDaMauler]

All of it, its like play time at Kindergarden...

[Rally]

And there's me thinking that you of all people would have some sympathy for someone being censored.

[aka.eric]

Originally Posted by JPM

Frank,

There's no mention of moderation in the above????? Surely Henners can be allowed to post then? This does mean you could delete the post immediately obviously, would this be correct?

This annoys me,if a persons not a member its got sod all to do with them.Posting should be a privilege of membership.Hopefully one day Henners will be an active member again,but the above reply is only "fanning the flames",for nonsense on other sites.:-

"I get the feeling one might be going down soon the way the politics and the personal agendas are going.......It's become a bit of a joke over there sadly."
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[MARTIN H]

Originally Posted by aka.eric

This annoys me,if a persons not a member its got sod all to do with them.Posting should be a privilege of membership.Hopefully one day Henners will be an active member again,but the above reply is only "fanning the flames",for nonsense on other sites.:-

"I get the feeling one might be going down soon the way the politics and the personal agendas are going.......It's become a bit of a joke over there sadly."
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The sad thing is that Jons comments about it becoming a bit of a joke over here is pretty accurate. You may think its nonsense that the DSC is seen that way but anyone looking on this forum for the first time is going to have that impression. The weekend before last DuN had a meeting of approx 50 Ducatis up at hartside, I was talking to a group of lads that I had not met before and they were telling me how they had found the DuN website but had also come across this site. I didnt ask the exact details but they basically said they had looked here and everyone was falling out and having a go at each other and they had no interest in that nonsense.

Compared to a year or two ago I feel like I get very little from the DSC but I renewed my membership anyway. I dont really know if I renewed because I hoped things would improve here or whether it was that I feel I have already had more than my moneys worth previously. This club and more recently DuN has enabled me to meet a lot of great people many of which I now see and ride with on a regular basis. I have received loads of help and technical advice etc from many members past and present. I've also tried to help out myself when I am able to. Sadly a few of the folk that welcomed me and made me decide to join are no longer members now and nowhere near as active on the forum as they were. I'm certain that if I had found the DSC now rather than a few years ago I would have probably not joined and looked elswhere instead. If it annoys you that non members/ex members are still having their say then fair enough. But surely the fact that they still come here and have an opinion means they still care about the DSC? I think I would be more concerned with why people such as Henners and JPM are no longer members.

Its still a great club but not half as good as it used to be.

[Dave G]

I agree with Martin H, I think its a real shame that the club has descended into cat fights and ego bashing diatribes,it was really good when it started up, though it has possibly become the monster it was trying to escape from in the DOC.
Maybe it'll ressurect itself in the future,unlike martin I doubt whether I'll rejoin as I get all I need from the contacts through DuN and the focus of the Dsc seems to have moved to trackdays and racing.
I'll still use this site as a source of information,though to be brutally honest its much less useful now than it has been in the past as the main postings of the site seem to be caught up in the petty personalities that overwhelm the day to day posts.Whats also a shame is that the people leaving seem to be the ones who have been here the longest.
Whether you believe the often stated fact that most Dsc members dont use this site ,(I find that hard to believe myself) this is the way most people will encounter the club initially and the impression given now is not the same as the exuberant,enthusiastic, friendly and knowledgeable feeling I got from this site in 2001 when I first joined. There are probably many reasons for this and its not worth debating these here,but I do thing the club need to do something to address these issues before it irrevocably damages itself and fades away.
I do hope all of these problems are solvable, but at what cost to the current memebership?

[Lily]

Originally Posted by aka.eric

This annoys me,if a persons not a member its got sod all to do with them.Posting should be a privilege of membership.Hopefully one day Henners will be an active member again,but the above reply is only "fanning the flames",for nonsense on other sites.:-

"I get the feeling one might be going down soon the way the politics and the personal agendas are going.......It's become a bit of a joke over there sadly."
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Eric

This board allows members and non members to have an opinion and this is what Jon has shared. I am unclear why you have singled this post out at this point in time.

Jon has been involved on this forum for over 5 years and has been involved with and contributed to the DSC in many ways. He choses not to be a member at prsent as he does not feel he gets any value from it, that is his choice similar to many others that have done likewise. Jon still attends and helps to organise events which include DSC members and ducati enthusiasts including DD related activities.

I am uncertain as to why you highlighted his comments which were fair and representative of what had been posted by many other members and non members alike.

As for quoting from a post on DUN, maybe it would have been more appropriate to have pointed out that the post on DUN was started by someone with no connection to DSC that had been over here and was suprised by what he saw. There were a few comments from individuals that have been disheartened by DSC but also a few comments requesting that it not be discussed. No flames were fanned, indeed the thread sank quite happily with no bitching or nastiness.

It would appear that your quoting on here will fan more flames than the original comment ever would have.

[webbyc]

Martin couldn't agree with your sentiments more. I think that the main problem is that the MT have lost touch with what is happening at grassroots level at meets around the regions - I can't remember the last time that someone from the MT attended a meet in Surrey, when they used to. I realise that they do a great job for the club, but to who's benefit? This censorship issue is ridiculous and it seems as though there is more interest in how we are perceived outside rather than internally to members. Henry, who is a friend, may speak his mind sometimes, but the thing is that he, and others like Dibble and JPM, care a lot about this club and should actively be encouraged to rejoin. My fear is that people, myself included, will not renew when it comes to renewal time because we've lost faith in the direction the club is going.

[JPM]

Martin, Webby, Lily and Dave have summed everything up nicely for me so saves me a lot of time posting the same response.I'm still here paid up or not (remember anyone can post for free, that in fact goes for most forums out there) I'm here because I do care, I'm not very PC and I'm truthfully blunt at times that's just me, why beat around the bush?There are problems, everyone who looks here can see them... so lets fix them

[Whele]

I did begin to agree with Martin H until he said

"Compared to a year or two ago I feel like I get very little from the DSC" well Matin H what exactly have you put into this club?