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[monstermob 998]

thats just what i had in mind frank!!!!

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[Edited on 26-2-2005 by monstermob 998]

[ali]

Originally posted by Iconic944ss
Ok a last question then.....

Apart from the obvious expense - I cant help wondering why Ducati didnt make a gear driven cam train for the belt drive bikes ??? If H0nda could do it with the VFR range, couldnt Ducati - or does the Desmodromics (?) prevent this in someway?

I was just thinking about the carnage (Bikeage ???) that could be produced if a belt ever snapped

Sure there'd be a few miffed dealers out there if the belt didn't need changing every ten minutes! It's also worth bearing in mind that Honda can do things with mass-production engineering that Ducati can only dream about...

As an aside to this question, does anyone have a cast-iron example of belts snapping? What mileage? What damage? Which cylinder? What's the difference between a duke belt that needs changing every 12000 miles and a Honda one that lasts 85000?

[monstermob 998]

I was just thinking about the carnage (Bikeage ???) that could be produced if a belt ever snapped

exactly the same if a chain snapped???

[ali]

Originally posted by Iconic944ss
Ali...this is one way to do it......

I'm with skids on this one. A bike you can afford to bin has to be worth 2secs a lap!

Not that I wouldn't want a set of FCRs, but if I had some they'd be 41s and on my SL....

[skidlids]

Seen the carnage of a 996 belt snapping at a Pembrey practice day a couple of years back when I guy I was often racing against decided he would try and get 4 race meetings out of his set of belts, not only did he need an expensive engine rebuild but also lost the points for 4 SoT races as the day was followed by a 2 day race meeting. Luckily the Desmo Due belts aren't under the same amount of strain as the Desmo Quattro belts but they will still need replacing at regular intervals. Luckily they are fairly cheap and easy enough to do.

[Iconic944ss]

Well..I remember reading a thread about a belt snapping.....

Destroyed valves and pistons.
Damaged valve gear, con-rods and barrels

In my question I did actually mean why didnt Ducati do the gear driven cams on something like the SL maybe, as a limited production run to make it really 'special' (with a bit more power to boot !!!)
***I think I've just created a niche market **** ------ NOT !!!

Ca-cycleworks seem to be the peeps tp talk to about FCR's on Ducatis - I've seen a few banks of 4 - 41mm FCR's for some of the Suzukis etc and wondered about splitting them in half but, it seems like a lot of problems for not much money saving.

[NBs996]

Originally posted by ali
The most recent info I can find: Ducati Holdings Group is owned, at least 33.4%, by Texas Pacific Group (TPG), a venture capital company in the U.S.

How much of the company is public I don't know, but a quick look makes me think most of the rest is, and it's owned by find managers, etc.

Hmmm... dead right Ali, Shareholders.
Looks like TPG are the controlling partner, other shares held by the board of directors of DMH.
The rest, I wouldn't like to speculate... but you can get their investor profile from yahoo financials for the princely sum of $25!

[ali]

Originally posted by Iconic944ss
Ca-cycleworks seem to be the peeps tp talk to about FCR's on Ducatis - I've seen a few banks of 4 - 41mm FCR's for some of the Suzukis etc and wondered about splitting them in half but, it seems like a lot of problems for not much money saving.

I dare say one of the euro versions of ebay may be able to help. Tend to get quite a few race bits...

[rockhopper]

Cheers for the ownership info guys. I too thought it was Texas Pacific Group but a guy i work with found some info that said VAG had a large interest.

[monstermob 998]

can i have one last question please?

tony rutter had some success back in the eighties/early nineties racing a 600 ducati -i believe that is what the 600SS engine was based on-- any one know what spec the bike was as regards to carbs,cams,pistons, suspension, exhaust and or any other go faster bits?----cant seem to find any info on the web